In New York, for example, hailing a hack outside of Manhattan or the trendy boros was virtually impossible. "Car service" became a thing because cabs left more than half the city unserved. But even those were limited in availability in some areas.
In Las Vegas, it was rare to see a taxi outside of the entertainment corridor. If you called for a taxi, they'd ignore you. The new state taxi commissioner even tried it, himself. He phoned three times for a taxi from a mall just a mile from The Strip, and every time he was ignored.
That's why Uber works in many places. And the app showing the position of the other cars encourages drivers to fan out into underserved areas.
Some people have even done that math and found that Ubering around town is cheaper for them than owning+maintaining+insuring+fueling a car.
I have requested Ubers in almost a dozen different countries and been able to easily get a car without worrying about language barriers or being pressured into increased tourist prices. I actually deleted Uber due to the concerns about their company culture and ended up re-downloading their app because it's so helpful for international travel.
The last time I was in Berlin, Uber drivers were required to be taxi operators. The Uber app just hailed a taxi driver, so there was no real difference in getting a Uber vs hailing a cab.
Instead of each Taxi company trying to stay on top with their own individual apps (which are probably made by like 3 US companies who sell/rebrand their services to everyone), why not an app system that connects you to local Taxi services?
Support your local Taxi company. Put in your destination and get a list of rates and estimated wait times from companies .. you could put fancy Limo companies right next to the Taxis in the rare case someone wants to pay some crazy amount for a limo (or so they can use the same app to book one for a big engagement/later time).
Is there anyone in this space?
I've heard many stories about people saying that cabs and private hire companies simply wouldn't go to <neighbourhood> or pick up people who sounded non-white-affluent, meaning a large swath of people were discriminated against and couldn't get rides.
With Uber/Lyft, the driver doesn't know what I look like, what I sound like, or where I'm going until I'm in the car. And the driver has no reason to discriminate because he's getting paid regardless.
The introduction of low-cost options for Uber/Lyft were arguably as important a development as their original ride-hailing app ideas. Once the fleet was no longer constrained to professional drivers, and anybody with a spare hour or two (and a car) could go online, the size of the fleet exploded. That meant the likelihood of having a car near you - no matter where you are in a city - dramatically increased. Sure, call your local car service from home when you're heading to JFK and he'll be there in 10. How about when you're in the Village at 1am? How about Red Hook? Not to mention this allowed the service to be provided in cities all over the world which didn't previously have a car service at all.
> 10,000 highly-paid developers
Uber probably services more than 10,000x the number of rides than your car service did. I suppose you could try employing 10,000 "ladies with a phone" to handle that volume - but of course human dispatch quickly becomes unable to handle those kinds of volumes. Sorry, those developers are necessary for scale.
> and providing a marginally better level of service
Car-sharing with strangers was impossible before Uber/Lyft operated at scale. Share a car to work with some of your colleagues, who happen to live near you, sure. But to car pool anywhere at any time requires a huge fleet, and the technology to match riders who are taking the same route. That is an very difficult problem to solve, and yes it takes capable engineers. That car pooling allows fares which are probably around a third of what your car service charges. More improvements are on the way which should see short-medium trips of a comparable cost to public transport.
Not to mention providing this service in under-served and otherwise unprofitable areas, to minorities, at all times of day, all across the world. Plus of course a consistent name and brand, by far the biggest value-add ;)
Now integrate with other modes of transport - public transport, bikes, and yep even scooters. These companies are positioned to shape entire cities' transit systems (they already have, for better or for worse). They're not the same as your small car service, and they're not over-engineered. They're certainly not setting out every day worried about justifying their Silicon Valley existence.
New York is a bad example. The system that was here before was pretty exceptionally good.
Standard protocol if you were in the boroughs was to simply ask for the local car service number. Restaurants, bars and bodegas all had it ready. If you were in the city, just flag down a yellow.
A car was rarely more than a few minutes away.
It was a short term gain for Uber, but now that the business has gone on long enough drivers are pricing in the maintenance costs to what they need to drive. That's going to drive up costs for Uber and other ride hailing companies because having every individual maintain their car personally is inherently less efficient than having a centralized fleet with professional mechanics who also make sure to perform preventative maintenance that most car owners avoid
I was referring to Uber/Lyft pools in that paragraph: "Share a car to work with some of your colleagues, who happen to live near you, sure." Agreed, ride sharing is a much misused term.
I can't give an informed opinion on just how profitable driving for Uber/Lyft is right now. Everything I've read on the subject has been (potentially) biased, devoid of real data, or since shown to be incorrect. I'd love to read studies on this if there are some available. I do think the best solution is to make as much data on profitability available to drivers, so the market can correct itself if necessary, like you suggest.
However I don't think the ride hailing companies are blind to the economics of their markets. If there is a problem with the economics, that's an existential risk and they're not going to be sitting on their hands. If we're comparing ride-hailing with traditional car services, it's the ride-hailing side which have a whole lot of knobs they can twiddle to make the market work, and they're adding more all the time (e.g.: Uber/Lyft Pool can go a long way toward mitigating driver "opex" - minimizing those empty seats, like any efficient transport operator.)
I just don't think the efficiency of centralized maintenance is really that big a deal. Even if we ignore all the other factors at play, if that's the make-or-break feature Uber could easily provide centralized mechanical support for their fleet. They already have driver centers in each city they operate in.
It varies by city of course but there were at least two largely orthogonal issues with cabs in a lot of places. General crapiness (unreliable, hard to get dispatched, won't go some places, credit card readers broken, etc.) and high cost.
e.g. I get a car to and from the airport were I live. It's comfortable and reliable but not cheap.
Yes. Outside of a few markets in the US it was a gamble to get a cab at any price. You'd call and it would be something like "30-45 minutes" and then an hour later you'd call again and hear the same thing. And this just on a regular night, forget about it if there's an event going on.
Where did you live? Downtown Manhattan?
Pre-Uber try getting cab service like that in Harlem or the other boroughs. You mostly rely on gypsy cabs who were always sketchy and always tried to cheat you. Coming back from the airport one time, one driver even tried to put my bags in another cab and tell me he'll finish the ride.
If the pre Uber cab service were so great, Uber wouldn't be such a popular success there right now.
And God help you if you were black and trying to get a ride.
Sounds like you weren't dealing with a TLC-licensed driver, which all medallion cabs and all legal black cabs (including Lyft and Uber) are.
The fact that The Oatmeal[1] has a comic on this means that it's more than just me.
- I don't need to make calls, I have list of places I go to most often and calling a taxi is couple of clicks away
- I don't need to worry about payment, it's just "Thanks, bye" and you go out of the car.
- I know what car will come to me
- I can see where the car is while it's coming to me
- When abroad it's so much easier to to use an app instead of talking to a driver who barely speaks English (like Thailand)
So it's much more than just a brand.
Uber, Didi, Lyft are free to prove me wrong by turning a profit. So far, that doesn't seem to be happening.