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We can begin here: https://tinyurl.com/y8rk9yjn

I personally reported many accounts, including an antifa group that called for killing cops and white peoples to no avail. At the same time twitter bans people for sharing news about job growth. Go figure.

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It's possible to find literally any opinion on twitter. What's the magnitude of this problem compared to Alex Jones' active disparagement of the parents of victims of mass shootings?

How would such magnitude even be measured? Subjectively, perhaps legally?

It's pretty straightforward. Twitter even offers it as a feature for your own tweets, something called Tweet Activity (the bar chart icon on every one of your own tweets).

The specific stats e.g. impressions, engagements, detail expands, clicks, replies, etc. are all measured. And that's just what's exposed to us. Twitter doubtless has more than that on hand.

What percentage of the population would you estimate would view actively targeting the families of shooting victims as worse than complaining about white people?

Do you feel like the accounts mentioned, ranked from most influential to least, would have Alex Jones at the very top?

Legal arguments often include reference to a "reasonable person". Legal is subjective.

Please post links to the source material rather than using url shorteners.

No no, you can't fake screenshots! =)

You... want to begin at a spectacularly dumb outrage shitpost on /r/TheDonald? Nothing sensible should or can begin, end or come within 17.0381 gigaparsecs of there.

Are you saying that tweets in that picture are falsified? Or that the fact it was posted to the Donald makes it inadmissible?

No, I'm saying what I said - it's spectacularly dumb and it's a shitpost. The fact that it's from /r/TheDonald just rounds out that assessment, that being a place of spectacularly dumb shitposts. I don't think the tweets are falsified.

I've never heard of any of these people, certainly none rise to the visibility of Richard Spencer or Alex Jones. Half of these are actual white people complaining about white people...

Only one i recognise is saachi kaul from buzzfeed.

That’s agitprop for Trump fanatics, not a serious list. They have people making jokes or political points – i.e. they apparently seriously think Mike Monteiro’s anti-fascist position is about killing white people! — but there’s nobody on the publicity level of Alex Jones and there certainly aren’t any serious threats which violate Twitter’s terms of service.

In contrast, Alex Jones made specific accusations about specific named people who were already dealing with harassment. The Pizzagate people had a potential mass shooting on their hands. The Sandy Hook parents, Brennan Gilmore, etc. all had credible claims for libel and concerns that his incitement would spur more dangerous activities. When Twitter suspended him for a week it was after a literal call to arms telling people “Now is time to act on the enemy before they do a false flag”.

As for your claim that Twitter is banning anyone for sharing job growth, you really need to cite credible sources for anyone to believe you. The conservative movement loves to loudly proclaim their victim status but the conspiracy theories inevitably turns out to be either misunderstanding how the services work or expecting special treatment.

So, I'll bite.

Why does the account that tweeted "Old. White. Men." deserve to be banned based on that tweet? That's something you are saying should be banned? (Just to be clear, that's one of the 'tweets' you are linking to in that screenshot)

> I personally reported many accounts, including an antifa group that called for killing cops and white peoples to no avail.

Citation needed. Actually quite interested in this one. This seems like something serious.

> At the same time twitter bans people for sharing news about job growth.

Citation needed. Please note, I'm looking specifically for proof that someone who shared job growth information got banned specifically for sharing that job growth information.

Until you provide the requested information, I'll feel comfortable in dismissing anything you say as bs.

So the offending tweet got deleted by twitter, but the account is still up. I scrolled through the first page and they are literally calling for doxing ICE agents right there. Pasted both pics to imgur

https://m.imgur.com/a/wsHPMUD

So your complaint is that a tweet which you reported was … deleted? Twitter’s process generally sucks but that really doesn’t support the claim that there’s political discrimination going on – I’m certain that if you switched to reporting right-wing extremists, Gamergaters, etc. you’d have the same experience.

This is just one example. My complaint is that accounts like that stay up despite numerous reports. And Alex Jones is saint compared to these guys...

It is hard to take someone seriously when they try to argue that Alex Jones is a saint compared to Joshua Malina from The West Wing.

I was referring to @ucf_socialism and other similar antifa groups. Whose activities led to an actual physical harm to people and property.

Okay, sure, doxing is bad, you've reported it, and as you've said, they've deleted a previous post. I don't know what the threshold is, but pretty sure there is one at some point. That being said, Alex Jones is still up and tweeted 5 minutes ago, and has done things at least as bad, if not worse. So... yeah.

But, that's 1 out of 3 you've "address", and your 1 isn't even compelling. You literally tell me flat out that Twitter is indeed responding to reports and acting on them.

Anyways, please address the other two, and I hope they actually demonstrate what you claim.

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