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Meanwhile I'm over here quite enjoying it. I type on a Filco MJ2 50% of my time and my MBPr keyboard the other 50%. It's not amazing, but it ain't bad either. At least that's my opinion. And that's what this is all about really... opinion. (Except for actual key failures or issues like that)

Caps lock fails to properly engage on my 2015 MBP too, its not an issue solely of the new KB.

Sure there's issues, but I think people are kicking up WAY too much of a fuss. I too paid >$2000 for my 2017 MBP.

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Your macbook is still new :) Wait until it gets slightly older... I got a 1 yr old 2016 model and the keyboard went horrible in no-time. I just got rid of it and returned to my 2015 MBP.

I'm somehow hoping some future model will have normal USB ports, HDMI and a normal keyboard... yeah like that's going to happen.

What do you mean by horrible?

I've done A LOT of typing on this, no changes yet. I'm hoping it stays that way ;P

Some keys that "feel" different than others, some keys that occasionally get stuck (double-press or no-press), and some keys also sound different than others.

The whole keyboard was just a mess in just over a year, and it is not like I abused the machine. I only use it at a desk (either at home or at office) and don't eat at my desk (or do other activities that might cause excessive dirt to come close to the keyboard).

My 2015 keyboard (and all other keyboards I've ever owned) are all still fine. I've never experienced keyboard degradation like this.

The funny thing is... it isn't even the only one. Others I've tried had the same problem.

Do note that I don't disliked the keyboard when it was new. I thought it was just fine. I liked the clicky-ness and it felt like I could type on it pretty fast. The keyboard just got bad pretty fast. Going back to the 2015 model, I hated the 2015 keys as well for a while, for being so "mushy". At least they work great, and the "mushyness" I got used to pretty fast.

And I <3 my USB-A/HDMI ports. I hate donglelife... I have 0 USB-C devices

My MacBook is from 2015 and still types fine.

The super thin keys are only in the 2016 and later models.

The MacBook[0] had the super thin keys in 2015.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_(12-inch)

My MacBook keyboard has just given up the ghost completely, spamming the keys 2 and 3 until I unloaded the kext manually.

Now gotta figure out how to get this replaced in a timely manner without leaving my machine for weeks.

What's wrong with USB-C? Sounds like a cool idea in theory - you essentially don't need a docking station.

The entire problem is that you do need a docking station/dongles to plug in the 99% of peripherals that are not USB-C.

Having USB-C ports is great, having only USB-C ports is a constant annoyance.

And this is before getting into the absolute shitshow that is the cable situation. Lots of cables are USB2 only. There are passive and active TB3 cables. Active TB3 cables cannot support USB 3.1. There are 3A USB-PD cables and 5A USB-PD cables. Of course you can't tell any of this by looking at the cable, only by plugging things in and wondering why they don't work. And these are the problems with 100% spec-compliant cables before getting into all the companies that completely ignore the standard.

Fair enough. If I ever get a laptop with USB-C, I think I'd replace at least my monitors and keyboard mouse to USB-C devices, so that I can get the "docking station" effect. Sucks if you don't want to do that (ex. because you've just recently bought them) though.

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