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One thing I lament about Netflix is how people's watching habits have changed around it, and how the programming has also changed in response.

A lot of people like to have something playing on the TV that they passively watch while also doing something else. Maybe they put on a show while they browse Instagram, or do house work/cook dinner, or while hanging with friends.

Seemingly as a result of this, there are a lot of shows/movies where you don't really need to pay close attention to get the plot because it has been dumbed down, reduced to the most basic strokes. There's more filler in between plot developments. It's like a lot of B-movie schlock with high production value.

These shows/movies don't interest me. When I put something on to watch, I sit there and watch it. I want deep plots and fleshed out characters and a lot of Netflix originals seem to lack this.

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I don't think that in itself is a change in viewing habits. There's been plenty of filler tv trash for the last half century, and I've used it in the way you describe even before netflix existed

True. I guess I wish their original programming didn't skew so heavily that direction. It wasn't as much of a problem for me when they still licensed a lot of non-original programming.

> I guess I wish their original programming didn't skew so heavily that direction.

no it really did.

"Shipping" is a classic trope where 2 characters have a will they won't they relationship for several seasons. It is always a good B story to fill otherwise empty space with when writers run out of material.

The name literally implies what it is, you are "shipping" a script. quality is slightly irreverent

I was once told soap opera is literally named for disposable shows that people at the laundromat would have on while waiting for their clothes to finish drying. That turns out to be a folk etymology, but it's believable.

As for original programming seemed dumbed down, I'd argue that for whatever reason (general technical advancements, maybe), it's far easier to make dumb shows, with higher production values. That's how you get wannabe prestige dramas that ape the style of The Sopranos, Mad Men, even costume epics like Game of Shows, but end up being far more vapid and worse in writing or plot. It's sort of how even box office stinkers these days look much better than bad movies used to do.

For anyone wondering, the term originated from radio dramas being sponsored by soap manufacturers (according to Wikipedia).

I don't mind over-the-top drama. Drama does not need to be dumb. One of my favorite series is Downton Abbey. The rule of that show seems to be that given a situation, always take the most dramatic route. This isn't bad though, the characters react realistically, they have depth, the show is wonderfully well acted. If you're not actively paying attention you will miss subtle facial expressions and looks that the characters show, giving more insight into what they are really thinking.

I am pretty sure the term comes from "relationship" - I remember it being used in alt.tv.x-files about Mulder and Scully, though I don't know if that was its first use (their relationship was/is very much as you describe): certainly people who wanted the two to get together were known as "shippers".

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