AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers
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But, if developing and hosting in a cloud environment doesn't convince you to go Linux, nothing will.
While for the most part as far as feature parity and development tools, AWS treats Windows developers like first class citizens. The "Windows Tax" is clear in AWS when you can see the cost difference between running the same instance size with Linux as Windows.
Even worse, realistically, running any Windows instance with less than 8GB of RAM is painful. Your minimum cost is $70 a month.
Being in the Windows world so long, I was amazed when I started using AWS and found how much you could do with relatively few resources in the Linux world.
I never cared before, I was using other people's money.
But I'm not leaving .Net Core, its made transistioning to Linux hosted development less painful.
https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/amazon-lightsail-update-mor...
I'm guessing they're able to do burstable offerings with better baseline and burst at a lower cost than before.
The only reason for using Lightsail is you want all those Amazon Services, which your LightSail can hook up free of transfer using Private Network.
Has been working well so far (a few years), though haven't really been close to any resource limits (yet).
Their tech and pricing may be good, but if there's any problem you'll spend a lot of time trying to deal with them or you'll just give up a let your wasted payment fly away...
I set up a small personal service a few months ago. My requirements were being dirt cheap and not having to manage anything statefull myself.
After looking at all cheap providers, very few of them had managed databases. So I ended up using OVH VPS + Postgres cloud database. The combo costs me 10€/month and runs surprisingly smoothly.
Their customer service completely sucks, to the point they told me that they do need me.
I kepy this in mind when signing up for a huge cloud contract where I told them straight that the way they treat their customers shows. They could have told me many things but not "fuck off, go somewhere else". This cost them a lot of money but they did not learn anything when I recontacted them again from my personal account and the customer service was still the same (of course I could have used the contacts I had there but I wanted to see if the situation impoved).
Edit: It seems they have added new instance types. My current instances are now 3.50$
How is cpu usage on these nodes? Aren't they oversubscribed as hell?
I dont know about the cores that hetzner provides and how they compare to the competitors, but ~3$ for a somewhat usable VPS is damn competetive
(not affiliated with hetzner in any way, other than I have one of those 3$ instances)
I think the feature-set and cost are in proportion, if you see what I mean. Compared to AWS EC2 its a great value proposition.
Interestingly, they recently announced a 'dedicated vCPU' option for about 10x the price. Top option is €269 vs €29, 32 GB vs 128 GB RAM. But I'v found the performance of the default product to be perfectly good for my needs.
The major shortfall with Hetnzer I have found is that the storage isn't scalable. You get what you get. You can choose SSD RAID or Ceph, but you still get the same allowance.
I'd love to hear from anyone else using it.
Edit: not Hetzner's traditional servers. I've used those too, and they're great value for money if you get them through their server bidding offering.
1: https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/E-Mail-Schnittstelle_Domai...
Never again. Control panel is awful, closing your account requires jumping through all kinds of hoops (emailing a scan of your passport, really?). I still haven't succeeded.
Scanned through the FAQ but couldn't find a clear answer.
Otherwise it's a way to convenient method to cripple the competition or shut someone's personal website down for shits and giggles.
Do you colo, or use non-US based providers?
The EU notice&takedown procedure does not entail that you loose protection for simply forwarding such notices, all that matters if someone responsible is actually reading the contents. If I don't give a shit about the notice then you can send a C&D and if I still don't give a shit, you can sue me. Or you make someone at my provider somehow care.
This is probably due to the fact that a lot of people use them for cheap 24x7 torrent boxes rather than the cheap personal VPS alternative they were intended as.
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/t2-credi...
If you are out of credits your CPU is just slower, you don't get turned off.
2 vCPU + 2 GB RAM is about € 2,50 ($3.00) on https://hetzner.cloud. (Not affiliated, just a happy customer.)
(From another comment: https://snag.gy/3Q1fL0.jpg) -> $3.50 for 512 MB of RAM is a fucking rip-off compared to this: https://www.scaleway.com/
Also, I'm not sure if it's just me being an idiot or not - but sometimes my instances have become unresponsive and I've had to reboot them with a newer bootscript from the Scaleway UI to get them working again.
Will definitely be trying out Lightsail now. Good opportunity for me to familiarize myself with the AWS ecosystem.
FWIW my Scaleway instances feel way more sluggish than my DO instances - not sure if that's from the CPUs or network disks.
That's rather optimist speculation about a company whose incompetence almost lost my business its primary domain name... twice. Shame on me for not taking appropriate measures after the first time. They should be renamed Incompetence Ltd.
This sounds like a rant because it is one. It's been a few years, but I'll never forget the several mandays I spent troubleshooting OVH's incompetence.
If you're in the developed world, $2 vs $5 etc does not matter in most cases. The most important factor is that your host does what you need it to do, that the network is excellent and your servers are located where you need them to be.
If you're an American business you'd be foolish to host your servers in the EU. Locating your servers in the EU opens you up to their jurisdiction, which is a mistake, you'd be unnecessarily exposing yourself to multiple jurisdiction compliance. That problem is only going to get dramatically worse in the coming years. It's not worth worrying about saving a couple of dollars over.
OVH has got a datacenter in Canada with good prices, compared to the rip-off Linode is.
$20 for 4gb of ram, 4tb of bandwidth and 2 cpus at Linode is a rip-off? I guess if someone were quite lacking in funds and needed the absolute most cut-rate VPS prices they can get, it might be viewed as a rip-off. That's a legitimate issue if so, sure. By all counts Linode in fact provides a tremendous service at a low cost, as with DigitalOcean. I'm guessing that for most people, $3 vs $7 (or a similar ratio) simply doesn't matter very much, especially when you consider laws and latency.
To compete fully, Scaleaway and OVH will eventually need multiple US data centers, otherwise the price gap by itself isn't going to be enough and the world's largest economy will remain the domain of DO/Linode/Amazon/etc. Those companies already know they'll have to charge more for service in the US, which is why they don't already have lots of US data centers after all these years, they have no competitive advantage to bring to the table.
Again, if you locate in Canada you're opening yourself up to multiple jurisdiction compliance. You're going to have to comply with both Canadian and US laws in that case if you're a US business. The complexity and burden of doing so will only continue to expand.
Saving a few dollars by locating with OVH in Canada might be fine if you're just running a test setup and have no intentions of running a real business on it.
And next time you should have mentioned it in your first reply. Instead of going in full force trashing other competitors with your new account. There are lots of international audience here, from Asia to US and Australia, where Scaleway doesn't serve.
Welcome to HN, lets not make HN the same place as reddit.