I think you have a few options, depending on what you are looking for and what you are already doing.
1) Look for local options (city and state level in the US, or even neighborhood level sometimes), and particularly on focused but not too focused areas. I've come across good local transportation oriented forums and I would guess there are decent local forums for things like education, foster care, environment, and health care. One of the better ways of getting information is via people who are on various advisory committes, so look for forums that those people participate in. I've also heard that it can be fairly easy to get on one of those committes yourself. Maybe twelve years ago or so I found the Pittsburgh Policy Issues Online Forum when I lived in Pittsburgh that was set up by the current mayor (Bill Peduto), who was then a city council member. He didn't participate himself and I wasn't super impressed at the time but in retrospect even having a few people in city government posting occasional responses about details of particular issues was better than almost anything else I've seen. Now almost all traces of its existance have been removed from the web (searchable web at least). I've wondered what the people running it thought of the experience.
2) Forcasting, detailed discussions aimed at predicting what will actually happen rather than what should happen. Look at Good Jugdement Open:
https://www.gjopen.com/
3) Forget online discussion and make friends with a journalist and/or find local groups. I think in general the closer you get to particular current issues (and the people actually making the decisions) the more the discussion is restrained by the current political environment in that particular area, but also the more detail you get. I've heard that it can be shockingly easy to have a direct impact on local politics outside of areas that powerful interests care most about.
4) There might be better discussions hiding behind the key word "ethics" or something similar rather than politics directly. In a way you can split politics into a) the details of things like what is required to make particular policy changes and what are the likely or actual results of such a change and b) what should the goals be. For b, you are likely to get a better discussion if it is mostly removed from current politics.
5) Put less effort into finding discussion opportunities and more effort into finding people writing with more detailed perspectives. Some journalists go into much more detail than others. These days lots of people previously involved in politics have blogs and some write in detail. It is easier to track down a bunch of interesting writers individually than a forum. Sometimes those blogs have comment areas that are decent or you could start your own politics blog. Also, published books can be a great source of information due to the longer write/edit/print cycle and authors being selected more for long term interest and expertise.
Edit: Also, look for multiple perspectives on history. In addition to history being generally important in politics, you can often find detailed discussions of what are now heated political issues.