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The car lobby already created "jaywalking" https://www.vox.com/2015/1/15/7551873/jaywalking-history . Let's hope we don't end up with an even more pedestrian hostile world than what we have already.

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    > Let's hope we don't end up with an even more 
    > pedestrian hostile world than what we have already.

Unless there's a cultural sea change, you can bet on it worsening. If you take presentism out of the equation, what we have now - ie: most roads off limits to humans due to giant metal death machines - is insane.

https://youtu.be/8Q5Nur642BU

Part of living in a city is going to have to be to learn to not walk in front of vehicles.

I manage just fine in Europe and cross wherever is convenient, just like everyone else (except the Germans!). The concept of jaywalking is pretty alien to most of the world.

Ditto in Australia.

Having lived in NYC briefly I learned the exact opposite.

Also I was taught to hold up a particular finger while crossing a redlight as a courtesy to the drivers.

I visited NYC two months ago for the first time—as someone who doesn’t drive it was incredible how pedestrian-driven the streets were. Cars would stop for me even when it was clearly their light.

Did you expect them to run you over instead?

That's what they'd do in suburban Philly.

This is the polar opposite of my experience in NYC.

That's poor consolation when a car mows down your dog... or toddler.

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