One could save money by living in Manhattan and flying to San Francisco for work. If time zones and transit were unrealistically fast and permitted such an exercise.
One could save money by living in Manhattan and flying to San Francisco for work. If time zones and transit were unrealistically fast and permitted such an exercise.
Specifically, I was in Washington DC and the startup I wanted to work for was in San Jose. My then-girlfriend (now fiancé) has the kind of job that can only be done in DC. I agreed to fly out for a week every month or so and work remotely the rest of the time. I did it for a little over a year but the travel wore me out and I struggled to find a healthy routine working from home.
I see threads like this and think that the solution to this problem has to be more remote work. I just wish I could be one of the people for whom it works as well in practice as it does in theory.
At least in this case, the decision to be located in the valley was rational at the individual level, even if it may be irrational collectively.
I think Seattle, Boston, LA, and NYC also have critical masses of talent that make them acceptable for starting a tech company, but unfortunately those places aren't really affordable either. The decrease in proximity to talent and capital probably isn't worth the marginal savings in cost of living.
If anyone is going to break the chicken vs. egg cycle and set up shop somewhere truly affordable, I think it will have to be one of the big companies, opening up a satellite office and offering employees the ability to choose where they want to work. They're all so profitable that they don't seem to mind the money that's going to Bay Area landowners. I wonder how expensive things will have to get before they start to get creative.
The startup ecosystem feeds off of that and California's outlawing of noncompetes. Employees get bored at working at a big company and have an idea for some way to employ the technology they've learned towards another industry. There's ample angel investors & VC floating around because of the profitability of previous companies. Oftentimes they have a spouse at one of the big companies who can continue to provide stability & health insurance.
The list of famous companies out here that can trace their ancestry back to one of [Shockley, Ampex, Stanford, IBM, HP] includes Fairchild, Intel, AMD, NVidia, Kleiner Perkins, Sequoia Capital, Atari, Dolby, Oracle, Salesforce, Memorex, Seagate, Apple, General Magic, Radius, Claris, E-Bay, StumbleUpon, Uber, Danger, Android, Nest, Be, NeXT, SGI, Cisco, Sun, Tandem, Siri, Yahoo, Google, Odeo, Twitter, Square, YCombinator, Netgear, Netscape, LoudCloud, Ning, a16z, Instagram, Whatsapp, Paypal, Slide, Yelp, Palantir, YouTube, LinkedIn, and likely many others. That's using a definition of "trace their ancestry back" as "a founder previously was an employee of or student at one of the other organizations in the set." Pretty much the only major Silicon Valley companies that are not included are the various YC companies (Reddit, AirBnB, Dropbox, Stripe, etc.) and Facebook, all of which would be if you extend the definition of "ancestry" to include "seed funder was in the set". (YC is in the set via Stanford => Yahoo => YC, Facebook's first investor was Peter Thiel, who got his BA and JD from Stanford.)
But that's a much shorter flight. It wouldn't surprise me if it worked for, say, Las Vegas to San Francisco.