Reddit hacking for votes and profit
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This system would only seem to work if the URL got through the spam filter, so isn't much use to the kind of voting rings you tend to find already operating on Reddit.
Though it's still a very valuable proof of concept.
also I cringe at the fact that this is called a "hack".
command control system implementation, software stack, coupling the capta with a captcha filling service...
(I do not support this kind of scheme)
EDIT: Hmm, the page in the video says "unique IPs", so it looks like they are used remotely. Odd.
She made about 1000 fake accounts and used Tor to make them appear to come from multiple IP addresses. The fake accounts were made with a statistical model that generated plausible usernames, real names, profile pictures and everything -- it could even pair up the gender of the first name and of the picture... most of the time.
Once she wrote a blog post she'd just set the sequencer and her posting would hit the front page in about two hours. She found it was a very consistent way to get 5k page views, sometimes better if the blog posting was good and it got picked up on other social media sites like proggit.
She'd gotten a few of her blog posts to be "all time favorites" on this site, but then another project eclipsed her blogging and she lost the credentials for the fake accounts in a hard drive crash.
Today, this "Zone" is dominated by other people doing the same thing. If you know what to look for, there's a quite unmistakable signature.
She thought about doing the same for reddit, but it was clear at the start that reddit had much better defenses -- it would have been a bigger project, and she probably would have burned some of her proxies before getting it right.
Note that you can get around the IP address problem in several ways. One of them is that you can rent SOCKS5 proxies for $3/month/IP address. Supervillians use bot nets.
Your 'friend' and her copycats think they are somehow entitled to that traffic, which in the long run is responsible for the famous eternal September feeling that many websites have.
Gaming the system is like the internet equivalent of slash-and-burn agriculture.
I don't care whether it works or not, or whether you consider it justified because her content was good I think it sucks.
If you want to have that traffic start your own social site, promote that and make it work, then feel what it is like to have people come out to game the system and use your knowledge of how such systems can be gamed to put a stop to it.
The toughest problem people have starting community sites is getting the community. Dealing with problem behaviors is something you worry about after you've got the community. Just as casinos hire shills, many community site operators use Mechanical Turk or statistical models to get the ball rolling...
Who knows, we might soon have replicants that are more satisfying to interact with than ordinary humans.
Because of this, I was picturing Ramona Flowers performing the rest of the actions described in your comment.
So whenever two people post/vote from the same corporate network, they are completely screwed? At the same time, this "restriction" is almost meaningless to a real fraudster. Awesome.
...as long as the article is interesting, this can be quite successful.
Most people find success on social media sites is capricious; not a lot of people read the "new" queue, so your first few organic votes are a matter of luck. Downvotes on reddit make this go double. Even great content can get buried if it doesn't get noticed.
For instance, there's a certain blog on a three letter domain name for which I'll sometimes see two or three posting on the front page at HN. That guy's got a voting ring. You might call it something else, like "I have a twitter account with a lot of followers who use HN", but that's what it is. This sort of practice takes some of the chance and variation out.
An advanced method is to recognize the role of "social proof" in social media. My informant has collected behavioral data sets from certain social media sites and discovered that the C.T.R. on articles increases as the number to the left increases: even if the headline is uninteresting, the high number makes people think that it "has to be good;" in experiments where the number of "ringer" votes was varied, she discovered that the ratio of "organic" to "ringer" votes got better the more "ringers" there were.
the high number makes people think that it "has to be good;"
"If an intelligent man delights so in this, why don't I?"
... and the pause is probably enough.
I've seen this happening as well. I've also had several experiences of submitting a link and having it buried at -2 or -3 and then seeing a different link on the same subject up-voted a day or so later.
I'd go even further and say that most stories have some kind of "weight" behind them that is not available to small-time users. If you follow the 'net news, especially topics about social networking, one sees always the same players getting lots of attention for the stuff they just happen to be doing at the time. I'd argue the system is indeed rigged, even without taking hacks like this one into account.
If it comes down to a war with the operators of the site, you will lose. If it gets personal, they'll burn you.
Successful SMO promotes content which, plausibly, you'd imagine succeeded organically. Sometimes the content is excellent and sometimes it's a little substandard, but it doesn't stick out as spam. It decorates itself in a pretty cloak to look legitimate.
Unethical tactics in SMO are like steroid use in sports: Steroid users aren't lazy people taking a shortcut, they're people who train hard, can play a good game honestly, but are looking for an edge that will keep them in the market.
It's a tough business because social traffic isn't good traffic for people who play the numbers game. You've got to relentlessly produce fresh content and relentlessly promote it. If you stop, you could be left with little permanent traffic. You'll get hooked on social traffic, however, by the ego rush you get the first time you get a burst of it and it crashes your server.