So I made something that's pretty stupid but had fun doing it
hitlerhops.com
Unfortunately the link graph was really stale when I ran it so it is not always correct. Also dates make it boring sometimes.
hitlerhops.com
Unfortunately the link graph was really stale when I ran it so it is not always correct. Also dates make it boring sometimes.
Mike Godwin -> Godwin's law -> Adolf Hitler
it gives: Mike Godwin -> 1956 -> 1889 -> Adolf Hitler
Also strange is that the "1956" it follows is in the text of, but not linked from "Mike Godwin".Either way, I like the Web 2.0-style Hitler drawings :-)
where it actually doesn't actually link to hitler. I would like to update the records but it takes forever to upload 5gb of entries into app engine :)
Polycephaly -> August 18 -> Adolf Hitler
When I was able to get their manually by: Polycephaly -> Freak Show -> Cannes Film Festival -> France -> Germany -> Hitler
I think just dropping dates from contention, apart from any other contextual algorithm improvements, would put a lot of the fun and discovery back in to it. December 5th -> 1889 -> Adolf Hitler
When there's a perfectly obvious connection at: Jewish -> Adolf Hitler
(which did exist in October 2008, just so nobody else wastes their time checking)6000 years of culture and all you can think of is some delusional scumbag.
First thing that popped in my head. Yeah, here come the downvotes.
Apparently yes, jewish associations and/or Israel remind us all the time about it. The only other thing about Jews I know are the terrible crimes they do in Palestine. But obviously that's not what they shout from the rooftops.
As for Hitler, he is most famous (at least in America) for his violent hatred of the Jewish people, so it is likely that mentioning him will bring it to mind. I mean, what are we supposed to think of? Complaining that Hitler is associated with Jews seems like saying, "Good grief, every time I mention Picasso, people think of Cubist art!"
We're not talking about an internet meme here, we're talking about mass murder of innocent people, not too long ago. There are still living survivors. So excuse me if I refuse to play along, and slap my knees all the way to the cemetery.
1) Hitler is associated with way too many entries, I mean for 10 years he controlled most of europe, there isn't a topic in 20th century history he doesn't touch at some point. Its too easy to get to hitler through wikipedia. I'd like to see it with someone less obvious (and funnier) - like Ted Nugent
2) I'm kind of disturbed by the cutesy drawings of Hitler. I dunno, I normally have a thick skin and a good sense of humor, but having been raised jewish its hard for me to look at cuddly hitler and not cringe a little
Maybe you should grow a thicker skin? The British Empire was arguably more evil than the German Reich (and did evil for quite a few centuries). Yet the Union Jack is displayed everywhere (even on shirts) and the same hateful institutions are still there (e.g. the royal family).
Examples include favouring certain classes in Sri Lanka (creating strife that lasted to this day in Sri Lanka and Malaysia). Overseeing immense famine (while British landowners exported food) in India and Ireland. Putting (and killing) people in concentration camps (e.g. South Africa and Kenia). Letting certain businessmen (e.g. Cecil John Rhodes) basically own countries (with all the abuse and rape that this entails).
Did you learn in history books that the British Empire was a divine and enlightened entity that existed for the benefit of mankind?
(Because it basically enslaved 400 million people for the benefit of an Island of less than 40 million).
Also, the British Empire, whilst causing harm, did bring benefits to some countries (something it would be hard to argue the Third Reich did). For instance:
* Infrastructure improvements (railways, roads, canals, industrialisation)
* Improvements in education
* Parliamentary democracy
* A professional civil service
* Free trade
* Medicine (hospitals, vaccinations)
.. and of course cricket :)It's quite notable that of all the countries Britain supposedly oppressed in their empire, many of them freely choose to remain part of the Commonwealth today.
If you judge any regime by the worst thing it's done, every regime is evil.
In terms of the "balance sheet" for the British Empire, ultimately it's hard to argue for more good than bad in the forced imposition of power from one state on another. The legacy of territorial conflicts birthed by Britain's hasty withdrawal have not helped either.
However, my point was not to try and write a defence of British imperialism, but to try and discredit this notion that the British Empire was more evil than the Third Reich, a state that more than any other plumbed the depths of human misery. It seems strange to argue that Nazi Germany had any benefit to it.
Six million people died during the Holocaust. Probably many more died because of the British Empire's policies. The biggest causes of this was probably the policies of the British Empire that caused famines (by letting British landowners export food while the native population starves) and the British stoking of ethnic conflict in a strategy of “divide and conquer”. Two examples of this was the series of Indian famines in the late 19th century and of course the Great Famine in Ireland.
Examples of the latter are probably too many to mention. Should wars basically caused by the British (between native populations) not also be counted?
There are however other cases where the British simply killed people in concentration camps (by destroying the rural areas through a scorched earth policy and imprisoning the civilian population in camps and denying them food, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LizzieVanZyl.jpg).
> Also, the British Empire, whilst causing harm, did bring benefits to some countries (something it would be hard to argue the Third Reich did).
The benefits that you mentioned was simply benefits of an industrial society. The general population in the victim countries did not share in the advantages of it, yet they paid for it (with their natural resources and the sweat of their brow).
In general not all people were allowed the benefits of education. The Catholic Irish were for long prevented from obtaining an education. In countries such as Sri Lanka, a ruling class was imported who received education. The aim of this was simple – to benefit Britain (not the local population). For Britain to develop to a high level at that time, required the work of many people in colonies (out of sight and out of mind) that was screwed in the deal.
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Probably the worst thing that the British Empire did was large scale ethnocide (destruction of indigeneous cultures and forcing native populations to use English).
But yeah. At least the Germans owned up and agreed that the 15 years of the German Reich was a mistake (and abandoned the symbolism and nationalistic tendencies). People in Britain still live with the mindset that colonialism and their colonial empire was a good thing.
I don't think body counts are a useful indicator of the level of evil intent of a government or a regime. On that basis the U.S. would fare significantly worse than Nazi Germany, based on the 10-16 million killed as a result of U.S. foreign policy since 1945 alone (see http://nottheenemy.com/index_files/Death%20Counts/Death%20Co...) It would take a crackpot to declare the U.S more "evil" than Nazi Germany.
> The benefits that you mentioned was[sic] simply benefits of an industrial society
Not true. China is increasingly a heavily industrialised society yet still maintains an autocratic system of government with no democracy. It doesn't follow that just because a society embraces industrialisation it implements a fair system of government or invests heavily in infrastructure programs - just look at the crumbling roads and transport in North Korea alongside their hi-tech nuclear ambitions.
> The general population in the victim countries did not share in the advantages of it
To quote Manmohan Singh (the current Prime Minister of India):
"Today, with the balance and perspective offered by the passage of time and the benefit of hindsight, it is possible for an Indian Prime Minister to assert that India's experience with Britain had its beneficial consequences too. Our notions of the rule of law, of a Constitutional government, of a free press, of a professional civil service, of modern universities and research laboratories have all been fashioned in the crucible where an age old civilisation met the dominant Empire of the day."
(see http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/jul/12spec.htm)
> Probably the worst thing that the British Empire did was large scale ethnocide
This is undeniable, and indefensible. However, unlike Nazi Germany it appears this wasn't the Raison d'être for the empire.
> People in Britain still live with the mindset that colonialism and their colonial empire was a good thing.
Not true. I don't know what evidence you are basing this opinion on, but the brutal effects of Colonialism are taught throughout the British national school curriculum and in various British museums. No punches are pulled. (see http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zPJS4o3...)
So? The Chinese government is arguably more responsible than many democratic countries (as far as foreign policy is concerned). It is not involved with any foreign wars (whilst democratic countries such as the USA are involved in 2).
China (as an autocratic country) is arguably better governed than democratic countries in the same position (e.g. India). So I don’t really get the point of what you are trying to say.
PS: Note that Britain tried to destroy the very fabric of Chinese society by flooding the country with Opium (see for example the Opium Wars). Trying to create a captive market by flooding a country with drugs (enforced by a navy) is pretty evil, IMHO.
> but the brutal effects of Colonialism are taught throughout the British national school curriculum and in various British museums.
Yet the symbolism remains. A good example is Cecil John Rhodes who basically raped the 3rd world (he owned the country of Zimbabwe). Yet a lot of things are still proudly named after him. Another example is the continued British reverence of the Royal Family (which was basically a hereditary dictatorship). So, the German equivalent would be naming things after Himmler and revering the Nazi Party.
The Nobel Peace Prize winner of this year is a fairly obscure writer in China. It is nothing more than the Nobel Prize committee giving the middle finger to China. IMHO it was a worse choice than Al Gore, Obama, Kissinger or Arafat.
> Instead we just get dumbfucks like you equivocating Nazis with
Nice ad hominem. Do you seriously wanted British Colonialism to last another 200 years? Maybe I am not as objective, since the British killed my people in concentration camps. Destroying all industry and putting people in concentration camps sure did a lot to uplift people!
> when they really have more in common with the current Chinese administration.
Really? The current Chinese administration is only involved in the ethnicide in one other country (Tibet) and has no ambitions to control other countries for its own benefit.
How many countries did the British Empire control?
I'm originally from Europe, and with family members lost during the war, I don't consider it something that's already lost in the fog of history.
<soapbox> I think Americans generally have a different sense of what the war felt like afterwards. There are many American vets who suffered great trauma, and I don't mean to detract from that in any way. They made real sacrifices that we should be aware of and respect.
That said - when the war was over, Americans came home to a country that was largely intact. In much of Europe, everything had been completely destroyed (by bombs or otherwise). So it's taken longer for those memories to fade. </soapbox>
Anyway, that's not to say that the effort put into this wasn't worthwhile! Good job on the wikipedia searching - cool idea. : )
It wasn't nearly 10 years. The Anschluss was in 38, by May 45 Hitler was dead, and Europe was for the most part free again (except for those parts that happened to find themselves under the Soviet boot).
The German expansion in Europe was at it's peak by August 1942, when the Russians fought off the Germans in and around Stalingrad, one month later allied forces successfully established a beach-head in Italy, from then onwards it was down all the way, even if the situation was more or less stagnant until D-Day.
Kevin Bacon -> The Great Depression -> Adolf Hitler
Living in Germany I find of find the idea mildy irritating (and the Graphics - erm - far too "comical"), but I love the technical side of the project.
Would be interesting to have a way to show the hops between arbitrary two words (but, yeah, the domain name gives away that this is not planned).
EDIT: to try to answer my own calculation on the back of the envelope...
We're going to need n^2 space and n^3 time, where n is the number of nodes. There are about 3.5 million articles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Size_of_Wikipedia), and if we assume that the diameter of the Wikipedia graph is 255 or less, we need 1 byte * 3.5 million * 3.5 million = 12.25 TB just to store path lengths for all pairs. It's also going to take a while because locality is going to be hosed. You might be able to do something smarter, like do the all-pairs solutions for something that will fit in memory (top 30000 pages or so), and hope that queries match a long-tail distribution...
Same for "Index of Estonia-related articles".
Well, that's more than a lot of people can say about certain projects!
Want to give us a run-down of how you put it together?
1) flip the link graph from outgoing to incoming, so from any page I can see what links to it.
2) I found all the distances and paths iteratively by exploding out from Adolf_Hitlers page. http://www.johnandcailin.com/blog/cailin/breadth-first-graph... and blogs like it were very helpful.
3) loaded the data into a large binary file that I divided into indexed parts that I compressed and uploaded to appengine to extract and load into bigtable (this took the most amount of time! both to run and to write the code to make it work)
4) ??
5) profit
Also, what's the longest path?
The dates are pretty lame, luckily looks like Wikipedia removed all the links to dates so when I run against the latest data set they won't be there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary
(e.g., "startup" = Wiktionary, December 12, Adolf Hitler)
Finding the longest shortest path (that is finding the minimum number of nodes from each wikipedia entry to the entry for Hitler) and then finding the longest is, however, rather easy.
Adolf Hitler --> Anabolic steroid --> Peliosis hepatis --> Fecal enema
It seems we've arrived at a proof that Wikipedia in fact can not have perfect, comprehensive knowledge of the world.
The Cure -> April 22 -> Adolf Hitler
It's not clear how to me The Cure are associated with the 22Apr. The best I can find is mentions of April, and footnote #22.There used to be a site that would do the same thing for two arbitrary endpoints but it looks like its offline: http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~mu/wiki/
Congrats. You've just automated the whole thing :)
what?
just the most recent article doesnt seem to have it
You should try to approach Jon Stewart with it, it would make for excellent satire.
You should look into character encoding issues though. I put in "Church–Turing thesis"and got:
ChurchU00e2U0080U0093Turing thesis
Kurt GU00c3U00b6del
1906
Adolf Hitler
He seems to have become more hero then villan these past few years!
Otherwise, great work!
Facebook -> April 30 -> Adolf Hitler Sitar -> Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band -> Adolf HitlerThe Path: Great Depression Adolf Hitler
lol looks like I can't find anything with a hitler degree of more than 3
However it would seem that it's only matching April and not April 30th.
Enjoyed the images though
Some characters aren't displaying properly: try entering fahrvergnugen. (The u-umlaut gets escaped.)
but it raises 500 (Iresult from ajax call) when I type unicode f.ex Polish letters: ńżźśąć etc., so I can't make fun of people :)
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc5 in position 8: ordinal not in range(128)
btw turn debug off ;)
Kevin Bacon -> Great Depression -> Adolf Hitler
Nice.Apple Inc. and Apple Computer both link with 3 hops, so the iPad has at most 4 hops by that logic.
Elliptical Curve Cryptography -> AndrU00c3U00a9 Weil -> 1906 -> Adolf Hitler
'AndrU00c3U00a9 Weil' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AndrU00c3U00a9_Weil) doesn't exist.Very cool though.
It's easy to make stupid apps (your word) but, in a post earlier today about creating apps for the greater good (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1770435), this is just blatantly adding bad. I mean, come on, do something worthwhile with your talents.
What's the point of this app? Is it just to get a rise out of people? I put in Dalai Lama and there's a separation of 3. I expected more from this community.
Also, what is the point of this statement: "I put in Dalai Lama and there's a separation of 3." Are you complaining that it's a short connection? I mean, obviously, this is simply demonstrating the small world effect, which is a pretty amoral concept as far as concepts go.
And, I wasn't complaining about the short connection. Everything's inter-related. But I feel that instead of using Hitler as the constant, some other object/person might have been more considerate; I still believe in the power of words. We have those little 'karma' points next to our usernames on this list, don't we? Is the karma just meant to indicate that what we say jives with the collective whole? Like I said, that was my second post; I may have misunderstood what the community 'rules' are.
I wouldn't have known his name, or that he died at 6 months. Or that his own parents directly petitioned to Hitler to have him killed and called him "The Monster."
Or that merely 3 weeks after his death, when Hitler realized no one would stop him, he started systematically compiling lists of children with severe disabilities to euthanize.
And that it was this systematic killing of children that led to the systematic killing of disabled adults, and then the systematic killing of entire ethnic groups.
(Insect diuretic hormones -> Evolution -> Action T4 -> Adolf Hitler, and then I read Action T4 and went to Gerhard Kretschmar)
The best way to sterilize some figure like Hitler, is to make fun of them and create comedy from them.
Words don't mean much, nor does karma.