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Taiwan is the latter. Taiwanese people consider themselves Chinese (both ethnically and nationally).

I call BS on that

Regarding the 2019 Taiwan Independence referendum, the Foundation’s data shows that 20.7% of the population are incredibly in favor of the vote and 28.8% generally approve, indicating that over half of the population support the referendum.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3385076

Most Taiwanese consider Taiwan, China separate countries, poll suggests

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/20...

Nearly 70 percent of Taiwanese are willing to go to war if China were to attempt to annex Taiwan by force

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2018/04/20/20...

How do you call BS? Yes of course they consider the two separate countries. The issue isn’t that. The issue is which country is the historical continuation of “China” after WWII, and that’s not even what I’m talking about. I’m talking about ethnic and national identity; the argument over which government of China is legitimate was not part of the conversation.

Taiwanese people are Chinese people, as is much of Singapore and Hong Kong.

I’m not sure what your referendum links have to do with anything.

Except of course for the aboriginal Taiwanese, who viewed Chiang Kai-Shek and company to be occupiers.

I would also suggest that saying the people of Taiwan consider themselves to be Chinese, ethnically and nationally, is true but not so helpful, given that the other China is similarly full of people who consider themselves to be Chinese, ethnically and nationally. What you said is true, but missing an awful lot of important distinction.

Well, better occupy than exterminate like in The US. Even before CKS there were ethnic Chinese that migrated to the island long before.

I’ve never heard anyone from Taiwan refer to their government as the “Chinese government”

Well their passport has “Republic of China” printed on it. They officially have a claim over the physical land of Mainland China but deny mainland Chinese citizenship. For practical purposes most people would refer to it as Taiwan so as not to confuse laymen.

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