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I've never had a fraudulent item purchased that I'm aware of. I hear this all the time on HN when Amazon comes up, yet haven't once experienced it and have been using Amazon for years.

If it did happen to me though, it would definitely sour my experience.

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I've never bought a fraudulent item, either -- nor have I paid an exorbitant price -- but that's because I'm rigorous when I shop. What I said in my original post is that it takes more effort to shop now.

I don't know what to think about you and other "Amazon is all hunky dory" posters not seeing ripoff garbage all over -- because I see it literally everywhere. Do you not actually shop that much there? (Unlikely, otherwise you wouldn't have posted.) Are you easily duped? (Uncharitable and unlikely for HN demographic.) Do you buy only books?

I think I see what you're saying now. I have bought for so long from online retailers that it's kind of automatic for me to realize there's a lot of garbage listed in shops that allow third party sellers.

It was always par for the course to be extra careful before I buy, never had a lot of trust in online retail products.

Not too long ago, I bought three Philips Hue bulbs off of amazon from a reseller.

They came in real Hue packaging. Opening the packages, not a one of them contained a Hue bulb. One was even an incandescent!

I got a refund for all three and got real bulbs.

Same here, but it's because I find it very easy to recognize the Chinese "brands", signs that a product is just Prime arbitrage, fake reviews, etc. If you want a selection of these lower-quality listings, take a look at lightning deals. I think actual counterfeits are fairly rare compared to just garbage knockoffs, but I also don't buy many products that are highly counterfeited.

I would say 50 percent or more of the items I buy from Amazon are counterfeit. I suspect clothes, almost all books and electronics are fake. Amazon tacitly accepts it to boost their sales figures.

Can you post some of these listings? I’ve never gotten a counterfeit item from Amazon

I ordered these boxing wraps a year apart. The second time they were noticably thinner and worse quality. I suspect they were counterfeit but I suppose it's possibld that the manufacturerchanged how they were made. Either way that doesnt changed that i did a buy it again and got something different.

Amazon "won" in this case because for the cost it wasnt worth my time in returning them.

Https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CHV2WI8/ref=twister_B00J29O7AO?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

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