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Fanaticism - subjective word associated with being in the wrong, and can be subjectively used to accuse the other party when they don't agree with your groups solutions on most important issues.

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It's not really subjective, unless you're going to go down the rabbit hole of "everything" being subjective making any discussion around this matter pointless.

>when they don't agree with your groups solutions on most important issues.

No, it's typically done when there are well-understood motivations behind people's opinions and the negative effects such opinions have when they make the status quo.

Most important issues in any society which is going back and forth between 2 parties are subjective, gun control, abortion, illegal aliens etc. Each party tries to insults other party's stance on very complicated subjective feelings, or at least that's what I see on news networks and late night shows(which are mostly liberal).

Subjective in the sense that people are free to opine on those matters, but there will always be one approach that, based on empirical data, works, and one that doesn’t.

There is a narrative that things like gun control, abortion, etc are subjective subjects. They're really not. Being disingenuous (which is really pervasive in American politics) or taking nonconstructive stances to support a narrative does not make certain view points or stances subjective, despite some people's best efforts to control rhetoric surrounding these conversations.

All opinions are not equal and not all opinions deserve the same stage time. Especially when those opinions and view points are not based on any data but rather ideological motivations.

>There is a narrative that things like gun control, abortion, etc are subjective subjects. They're really not.

So, what are the objectively correct stances on these issues?

one objectively measurable observation is that freely distributing birth control reduces the incidence of abortion. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/colorado-birth-control-fac...

Absolutely - and a great example - but that's more of a sub-issue than the actual issue itself.

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