Can we finally just admit that increased emissions standards are putting lipstick on a pig?
ICE vehicles will never be clean energy. We need to be investing more in the transition to EVs and improving electricity generation in general.
ICE vehicles will never be clean energy. We need to be investing more in the transition to EVs and improving electricity generation in general.
ICE may very well one day be fully outmoded, but that day is not here yet, so in the meantime...
Further the current electrical grid can not support a full migration to EV, we can barely support summer time loads in some area with A/C Running, if everyone changed to EV Tomorrow it would completely collapse the electric grid.
EVs charge mostly at night, so the balance out daytime A/C use to produce a more stable power draw.
>>>EVs charge mostly at night
That is the use case today, when they make up a low part of the overall fleet... I doubt that will maintain as their percentages increase and people that do not have Salary 9-5 jobs start using EV's
https://blog.ucsusa.org/dave-reichmuth/new-data-show-electri...
So the worst case EV's are better than the smallest, most efficient ICE subcompacts.
And you can flip the map on that post between 2009 and 2016 numbers. You can see things are getting cleaner. They're getting cleaner because renewables are out-competing dirty coal. Yes, most of it is gas displacing coal (gas is marginally cleaner), but there are cases of renewables/storage outcompeting gas in terms of price.
It's not a hidden agenda -- it's pure competitive economics.
Clean when compared to an ICE in a car, yes.
e.g. If we can reduce a bad thing by 90%, your argument is that there is still 10% of that bad thing, and therefore we should not adopt the solution. That's a silly argument to make.
> if everyone changed to EV Tomorrow it would completely collapse the electric grid.
Since that literally can't happen, it's a non-issue.
Coal is still bad, and there are much better alternatives like solar, wind and nuclear and natural gas; where solar wind and nuclear take no hydrocarbons, natural gas doesn't emit all the nasty things that coal plants do.
I'm not saying a coal power plant isn't more efficient but this is a one sided fanboy comparison if there ever was one.
What's the efficiency of the coal power plant after it's been used to charge up a battery and then discharged to power a car (i.e "at the wheel")? The fact that it's being used to drive a car around is the dominant term in the efficiency equation, not the form factor of the hydrocarbons. You did touch on supply chain but lithium batteries have some pretty nasty environmental impacts. I'm not sure whether they're better or worse than supplying liquid fuel.
> Further the current electrical grid can not support ...
Oh no, please don't go into that well-debunked FUD.
(I am biased on this: I've both a Nissan LEAF and a Tesla S and have done almost 60K miles of pure EV driving in the last 4 years. Over the last 3 years, our solar PV system has provided 95% of the electricity we've used, including charging the cars).