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Eighth paragraph. "Apple says its mapping service is now used more than three times as often as its next leading competitor on iPhones and iPads"

Ok, maybe slightly less than 75%, because Waze exists. But again, crushing Google Maps is not the goal. Keeping people on iOS is the goal.

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I also haven’t figured out how to get links I click on in my phone to open in Google Maps, so I accidentally open Apple Maps all the time.

I don’t think theres a way to set Google maps as the default :(

Once you could open it in google maps from Apple maps, now they removed this ability. I wish I could use google maps as a default and get rid of that useless Apple maps.

Wow, isn't that the same kind of behavior/pattern that made MS target of the antitrust charges in the end of the 90s, back then with IE being the default browser?

No, they had trouble because of they way they forced PC manufactures to ship IE instead of Netscape.

Also, they had practical monopoly. Apple doesn't

And if only gmail would open up safari by default without asking me every single time. And yes, I only use safari on my iPhone because it’s either just safari or safari AND chrome.

Firefox is reasonably performant on iOS.

I would uninstall Apple maps entirely from my phone if i could but then there’d be no way to open up dropped pins from my messages. I always feel like the user is grabbed by the balls when it comes to device manufactures trying to force you to give them your data rather than hand it over to someone else, just because they know the user can’t do anything about it really.

> I always feel like the user is grabbed by the balls when it comes to device manufactures trying to force you to give them your data rather than hand it over to someone else, just because they know the user can’t do anything about it really.

This isn't a manufacturer problem, it's an Apple problem. Lack of choice is baked into their design, which is uncontroversial among both proponents and detractors; the former would (reasonably) say that there are tradeoffs that are the other side of the coin to constraining the user so heavily.

That's some Bilbo Baggins phrasing. It's telling if no hard numbers were divulged.

Can I ask what you mean by "Bilbo Baggins phrasing"?

I agree with your point, and think I can guess what that phrase means, but I'm not quite remembering why Bilbo Baggins would be associated with being intentionally vague about something :)

The line he uses at his going away party is somewhat related, “I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”

I'm not sure if it's what OP meant though.

Ha, i'm adding "Bilbo Baggins phrasing" to my repertoire.

I've always assumed that was a veiled insult, but never thought about it long enough to tell.

I always assumed it was too, but now that I actually try to parse it... I think maybe it's not? But all who heard it probably assumed it was too? I think Bilbo probably meant the to be confused about whether it was or not, with plausible deniability, haha.

That probably includes embedded maps in apps. They default to apple maps and this will make up a lot of usage. Direct map usage is probably more skewed towards Google Maps.

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