How a Chinese businessman became the largest supplier of pyrotechnics in the US
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He is perhaps the most cutt throat person i have ever met in my life. When i read this article about Mr Ding, he reminds me of him
One time i had a meeting with him at a covention. We talked about different specs for products for an 40 foot container order. As we started talking, another one of his clients who did 2xs or more business we did stopped by at the booth.
I kid you not but he told me to go fuck off right then and there in mandarin. There was only one extra seat and I occupied it. He had the most dead pan serial killer eye expression i have ever seen. We were just having a nice light casual conversation in english talking about spec clarifications one second before.
We still did business with him because you cant argue with the quality of goods he brought. His trade records were impeccable and spoke for themselves.
I've worked with high level execs before in the states. But I have never seen someone stab me in the back right in front of me so fast before.
The mentality in China on the exec level is so different.
He wasn't lying and he was being incredibly direct.
So to get to the point, not you wouldn't expect that in Western business culture, partly because if the bigger customer got wind of it they would think he was being an a-hole too, while in China they'd be flattered. Source - my wife is Chinese and I've been over many times.
True but for a sec there my mind was arguing with lack of morals on your part. Since your whole post is somewhat American doing business with Chinese individual, I felt disgust how low some of us (like Obama bowing to Chinese President to almost clean the floor) will fell just to grab ONE MORE buck :(
The shift between the light conversation we had before and when he told me off it was done so casually and efficiently. There was NO change in body language. Only someone who is a complete psychopath or sociopath does this. Its as if he does this often to his factory workers.
But this wasn't the case when I visited his factory though.
A few months later he stopped by our warehouse. I took him around town. He didn't care about any of the cool things my city had to offer or its history. All he wanted to know was insider knowledge I had about the industry as a whole. Everything was strictly only about business only.
.....didn't realize grammatical comment was not at me but I expanded on it anyhow
What's good about this?
>Before the explosion, companies could ship fireworks out of numerous ports, fireworks industry executives said. But after the explosion, Chinese authorities quickly cracked down, requiring almost all of the pyrotechnics to be moved out of Shanghai. And, perhaps most significant, to ship fireworks, companies now needed to obtain special permits, the executives said.
>Only three were initially given out by Shanghai’s Maritime Safety Administration to transfer fireworks onto container ships there, several fireworks and shipping executives said. Of those three, Ding was the only recipient who could move his vessels through the Shanghai port for export to the United States, according to Liu Jihua, owner of Hunan Hongguang Logistics, a Liuyang company that specializes in shipping to Southeast Asia.
Stuff like this is all over China, and they were even more extreme during the time of mandatory export licensing and "export tariffs"
i find this extraordinarily unlikely. i'm reminded of intelsat 708.
As a story about a Chinese businessman, this starts to get the scrutiny it deserves. I’d love to see journalists shed some light on monopolistic behaviors in the US. Frankly, we’d all benefit from the review.
Personally I think Google should be scrutinized.
Imagine: "Mr. Smith -- that's what those of us in the know tend to have this wacky idiosyncratic habit of calling him -- controls all the mayonnaise distribution on the West Coast."
I've only seen people in Hong Kong movies or TV shows calling their boss Mr (生 rather than 先生). I think they actually do that in real life.
This sort of situation also has a tendency to perpetuate itself over there. The guy with the license can make monopolistic profits, which means he has greater financial resources to influence the licensing authority, which means unfortunately his rivals seem to have unexpected problems getting licenses of their own.
It's also interesting that the article goes in depth with detail (because of data availability perhaps?) from the US side of the trade, but very light on detail (and full of implications) about stuff going on in the China side.
The word "monopoly" doesn't appear anywhere in the article. The article's claim is that Mr. Ding is anticompetitive, not that he operates a monopoly.
US customs data is very reliable and standardized, however china export data is not. The public data by itself is useless though - theres 4 or 5 companies in america that process it in a usable BI type format. Panjvia is one of those companies.
If they start elsewhere... I guess the 18k per container that Mr. Ding gets from each sale is less than the price difference between Chinese-made and non-Chinese-made fireworks...
- He has a permit
- He has economies of scale
- He owns the logistics and shipping
- He is the defacto controller of the port considering how scared people are of him
- He's cutting his costs of operation to a minimum by moving everything under his control since there are no middlemen siphoning of money for their own profit.
The nature of other markets like the US means the cost of production is prohibitive in most cases. This is literally the playbook on doing business from time immemorial.
Check out the billonaire cheese guy for more examples of good positioning and secretive ceos. https://www.forbes.com/sites/chloesorvino/2017/05/23/james-l...
He found it dystopian and dirty and it eventually closed.
Space X for example has a high degree of vertical integration, maybe not to the point of smelting their own raw materials but much higher than ULA. In the past it may have made sense given the environment.