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There was an article in a French newspaper that details the real story about education changing in Turkey. The education system has moved from being mostly secular to being extremely orthodox islamic.

Newly brought in last year: jihad (and no, not "the peaceful kind"), and removal of evolution. New this year, the how righteous of the punishment of stoning is.

The illustration from that article was that several girls one day came home crying, panicked and scared from school. What had happened ? They had been shown a video of the stoning of a woman, and had to endure their teacher defending this as just for 30 minutes. Apparently this is now the new normal in Turkey.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/20/devout-generat...

https://www.politico.eu/article/erdogan-turkey-education-new...

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As an American living in Turkey to produce software systems for the Education industry. It is in my honest opinion this is mostly all false. Evolution was not removed (if I'm correct it was shifted in which years it was taught, pushing it later in the primary education years). Jihadism is not on the agenda at all. But some south-eastern/eastern provinces do place Islam studies on the bill (in historical manners). It's much like how the US has a "Bible belt" in the south where creationism is taught along evolution. Turkey has a "Quran belt" in it's south-eastern border that also places more emphasis in religious teachings along side it's sciences. In the western portions this is essentially non-existent besides the historical context (Ottoman was Islamic after all)

I’m sorry but this is not true. The depiction of Turkey by the french media is just false. This is NOT something normal.

In fact, for me, the Turkish education system works better than the French education.

And Islam is not part of the education at school in Turkey.

School in Turkey is about actually learning and carring about each other.

(I am a Turkish-French. I live in both coutries.)

What is not normal about the parent said ? That jihad is now part of the curriculum and evolution is not ? Not a lie, if you don't like french media you can check turkish sources [1]. Turkish academics agree that it is not a lie [2].

According to my turkish friends in the past the quality of education was quite good but has been steadily going down [5] thanks to the ruling party promoting religious schools for many years [3]. Islam _is_ part of education at school in Turkey [4].

[1] http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-education-ministry-...

[2] http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-academics-tell-mini...

[3] https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/17/world/europe/turkeys-reli...

[4] https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/turkeys-ath...

[5] http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkeys-education-problems-...

> Apparently this is now the new normal in Turkey.

Let's word it better: it's the normal a tirannical government is imposing and its unqualified conformist officers are implementing.

You lost all credibility when you brought up french media as a reliable source of infomation.

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