(Am I literally helping tear families apart? https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/crying-toddler-border-v...)
If you have the financial independence and career privilege to not contribute to making the world a worse place, that's a wonderful gift, and I hope people will not squander it.
If my job to promotes something that I find uncomfortable or is bad for company PR - I try to avoid. If it's pretty clear it's over the line.
Good thing here that Trump is making people do this now. ICE was doing this during Obama times[1], afaik but no one cared back then which corps ICE is working with. So perhaps this is a silver lining of trump presidency? Hope media doesn't go a back to being quite when "their guy" is in office.
1. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/obama-administration...
Just hope they don't regress, that would be the real test.
Regarding "their guy" , I was thinking of MSNBC's tweet saying Opera was "their president" or something.
[0] https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/parents-deportation_...
[1] https://www.thedailybeast.com/deportation-is-ripping-familie...
[2] http://theconversation.com/immigrants-deported-under-obama-s...
No it wasn't substantively. The facilities for children were used for unaccompanied minors; the Obama administration largely did not criminally detain parents crossing with minors (if illegal crossing was the only charge), so the family separation issue did not exist. There's a reason it only became an issue with the Trump “zero-tolerance” policy, and that's because the practice substantively did not exist before that.
What about Cisco, Apple and Microsoft selling to kingdom of Saudi Arabia, China, etc... let’s not fly Boeing or Airbus because their other units sell to govts we don’t like.
Can we please stop conflating legal and illegal immigration? Microsoft is dependent on legal immigration through the H1B and EB programs. Furthermore, there are many business who are dependent on illegal immigration and those deserve to be shutdown for exploiting a system of indentured servitude.
And that population tends to have used family-based or diversity-based pathways. Very rarely do employment-based immigrants live in mixed-status families.
You don’t seem to be aware of how distinct the different immigrant communities can be.
My friend’s wife finally got her citizenship because of all this nonsense. My wife (though not brown) is seriously considering it as well. There are many others.
At this point, opposing ICE is not about being in favor of illegal immigration, it’s about being against an abusive government agency.
Edit: to anyone doubting that ICE is racist, I propose an experiment. Leaving all of your identification at home (perfectly legal), ride the bus to, say, Nogales, AZ and then back home. Now go ask a hispanic-looking US citizen friend to join you on this journey and see what they say.
It is quite possible and even reasonable to have a goal and hate/fear the methods that some use to achieve those ends.
I don't worry about it that much. I'm much more worried that would end up arrested and held without trial for however long ice feels like it only to be deported. The deported part is not that big a deal, since I'm from Canada.
The idea that any small fuckup on my part could turn into months of hell because the US federal government doesn't really consider me a person, that scares me.
Why? ICE doesn’t deport legal immigrants.
Yet another article dishonestly conflating legal and illegal immigration.
Of course they do. They’ve even deported citizens. The agency is out of control, and the fact that they mostly enforce civil infractions means they’d not held to account nearly as much as traditional law enforcement, and not nearly as much as they should be.
I think you’re trying to say: “they have no qualms deporting x, and x has a stronger claim to being here than y, so clearly they’d have no qualms deporting y”.
The reality is completely different. If you’re a lawful immigrant, they have your fingerprints, photograph, travel history, address, and a whole lot of other information already, and you can use that to prove your identity. Of course, you may then be subject to a fine for not carrying your documents, as all aliens are required to pursuant to INA 264(e) and other provisions.
And you might remember green card holders getting refused entry and deported by the hundreds during the weekend of Trump’s abortive “travel ban,” although strictly speaking that’s not ICE.
As for the travel ban affecting green card holders, that was stupid but irrelevant to the point at hand. That part was reversed very quickly, I might add.
Here’s what I am saying: ICE runs the fingerprints of everyone they arrest, and the system will show a match for anyone who went through the legal immigration process.
And once they do, as long as you didn’t make a typo on a form, or accidentally make a misstatement to an officer, or the president decides people from your country aren’t welcome here anymore, you’ll be free to go!
Wow didn't know about this.
edit:
https://www.aclu.org/blog/speakeasy/yes-us-wrongfully-deport...
Ok found what you are talking about. This is from 2008 but i assume its still happening.
But why weren't people who are supposedly watching this quite before trump. It really boggles my mind.
Because Trump is upping the level of cruelty and rhetoric.
They have detained citizens. What the hell makes you think they give 2 shits if someone is here legally or not?