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Comment by sharcerer | Hacker News Reader

I see this happening a lot. For eg, on youtube I often see Casey neistat buying candies,marshmallow candy for his daughter. Now i am not targeting him.just pointing out what i notice.(he has made great videos on actual calory content in butgers etc).He also has some juice many a times after runs, i dunno whether that's healthy juice without sugar. But, basically parents give in to kid's demands. Also, lack of suitable choices. I am in India, and even see poor mothers,kids purchasing chips or eating some refined flour item on roadside coz it's easily available. Also, a while ago i read that in Brazil ,Nestle has these agents who sell nestle food poducts door2door, also obesity has risen due to high consumption of cheap ,packaged products like Nestle's. Big Food,Big Oil are the most prime corporate evils whose actions will be felt for many decades to come. I guess there are food startups trying to make good products, but haven't heard of a lot. I dunno whether their low sugar initiatives aee actually good, i mean it's obvious that after a cetain time they will have to change or perish but the question is how long.

Fruit juice IS sugar, whether they add HFCS or not. There's really not significant difference between kinds of sugars biologically, the amount of sugar you can take in from juiced fruits is astronomical.

Just for completeness: The actual fruits are fine, though. Something (fibers play a part, but apparently can't explain the whole effect) in the whole fruits changes the absorbtion.

It takes 3-6 apples to make a glass of apple juice. It's easy to drink a glass of apple juice and want another but nobody is going to eat 3-6 apples. That's a key difference.

Fruits are artificially evolved to ever higher sugar content. They are better than candy, but they are also dangerous in excess.

Part of the problem is that in moderation, it's fine. I experienced this personally during a time of extreme weight loss; about 1/4 to 1/3 of my diet was chocolate in the form of boxes of candy bars I bought on clearance. The rest was greens, massive amounts of spinach, and nuts.

I went to the hospital later that year with a kidney stone, and was told: Stop eating the spinach and cut back on nuts, these foods are way too high in oxalates! Other than that I was healthy as a horse, with a resting pulse of 40 bpm and having lost 100 lbs.

I'm an anecdote, but many people look and feel OK and eat tons of refined sugar. That's part of the reason it's still around. We like it and show no ill effects.

Different people are different. I seem to be able to eat any level of sugar I want without putting on a pound, but the missus is having to go on a low-carb diet.

Food is not only calories. Quality of ingredients matter. Plenty of studies relate refined oils, flours, sugars to cancer, diabetes, heart problems. Cheap, easy to get != healthy. It's cheap and unhealthy because ingredients are low quality.

Was processed food in supermarkets a hundred years ago? Humans don't need it. Of course food is safer than 100 years ago, but also processed food has pulled apart healthy and unprocessed food from our diets.

Nestle, Coca-Cola, Unilever, they are in universities, associations, etc... we see plenty of cases here in Spain. They do courses for professionals... and they are the brands with the best public perception. And we say advertising doesn't work?

I appreciate English isn't your first language, but generally speaking this sort of sloppy writing is frowned on here. You've made a fair few comments now but are still on 1 karma.

I generally agree with your point above, but you could have said it much clearer.

Avoid the slang like 'dunno' + 'coz', commas have a space after them and split your posts into paragraphs for readability. Also work on properly capitalising, it's a mistake you're constantly making in your previous posts.

Okay, noted. My bad. English isn't my first language, but I am well aware of all grammatical rules. I was in a hurry, so just ranted off. It won't happen next time.

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