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That benchmark seems to list only Kitura. I wonder what it would look like with Perfect, Vapor, or Zewo.

> Concurrency hasn't moved at all

Yeah, it hasn't moved because GCD is already pretty mature, and they don't seem to have made any effort at other concurrency paradigms. I'd love to see how something more like CSP would work (Zewo has an implementation, but I haven't had a chance to work with it yet).

> There is also nothing for cross-platform development (real cross-platform, not just iOS and macOS).

Not yet; it doesn't quite seem like it's ready to be a practical goal. I'm curious to see if that changes when they manage ABI stability.

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GCD is a library, not a language construct. As such it is extremely raw, and i've got a strong suspicion that the fact that it wasn't built for server-side style concurrency is one of the reason kitura is dead slow in the benchmarks. Those kind benchmarks usually spawn thousands of simultaneous connexions, which is very far from what an app generally requires (but i could be wrong).

It also doesn't provide more parallelism regarding i/o than os-based threading. go has light threads which makes context switching fast, and node has async i/o all over the place. Maybe Swift NIO would make a difference, but it would only make swift catch up to what the first version of node.js provided.

My point was that this manifesto https://gist.github.com/lattner/31ed37682ef1576b16bca1432ea9... has been written 1 year ago and nothing has been implemented or announced at wwdc (but maybe i missed a talk...)

Vapor generally kicks ass in benchmarks FWIW, and it's using this now so clearly Apple is beginning to pay attention to stuff around server side concurrency: https://github.com/apple/swift-nio

Although as I mentioned in another comment, if you're looking for something more mature, Kotlin is a great option. Vert.x has the widest database support and is lean and fast, so this is probably what you're looking for. But if just Mongo/Cassandra/Redis is acceptable, Spring Boot w/ Reactive Web looks pretty cool, too.

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