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China Hacked Navy Contractor and Secured Highly Sensitive Submarine Warfare Data

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Aaaannd this is why we're heating up the trade war. I hope we can resolve this relatively soon and with minimal damage.

I don't see why a trade war would make the Chinese stop spying on us. If discouraging bad behavior is the goal, rewarding ZTE for violating trade sanctions doesn't seem like a step in the right direction.

You've been using HN primarily for political and ideological battle. That's against the site guidelines. It not only goes against what the site is for, it destroys what it is for. Battle and curiosity are disjoint modes, so we can't have both, and curiosity is the one we want.

Keeping HN alive for its intended purpose means we have to ban accounts that won't stop abusing it this way, regardless of the what their politics or ideology are. So if you would please (re-)read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and fix this, we'd appreciate it.

There are so many accounts which are allowed to post as many times as they want and they are almost exclusively pushing an ideological agenda, except they push an agenda you agree with.

You're so full of shit.

Everyone has this instinctive reaction when their favorite viewpoint gets moderated, but it's an illusion: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... You don't know what I agree with; you have an image based on what you've noticed, and people notice what they dislike.

Those with opposite tastes have opposite images (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16407769, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16750306, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17216687, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17248326).

If you know of users breaking the site guidelines who haven't gotten moderated, I'd appreciate links.

FWIW I didn't even consider my OP in this thread to be ideological in any way. The only judgement I made in it was that I hoped it would end before too much damage was done. Maybe it's ideological to claim that China stealing our defense tech is part of our trade war? It doesn't matter though, I'll try to be more careful. Additionally, the GP post claiming you are biased is distasteful and even if I thought you were biased that kind of nastiness is not a good way of handling it. Sorry that happened. I appreciate your work.

If you mean https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17274168, that one was more unsubstantive than ideological. I was referring to the pattern of your comments overall ("primarily"). That's the more important thing we look at in terms of how we moderate HN, as I've explained in previous comments: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme....

Thanks for the nice reply in any case!

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