What does this mean compared to say a 2011 i7?
I'm frankly amazed my first post-college desktop is soldiering on as a high-end gaming system with gpu, ssd and dram updates
I'm frankly amazed my first post-college desktop is soldiering on as a high-end gaming system with gpu, ssd and dram updates
This is really more of a workstation or server cpu than a gaming cpu.
Edit: Tons of comments are pointing out exceptions. I was hoping to cover that with "generally speaking".
I imagine many genres will never be heavy CPU users though, like low player count competitive FPS and MOBA.
This guys go all the way up to 6 hardware ones, depending on availability.
Also, many games that do utilize multiple CPU cores do not scale well beyond about 4-6 cores (which makes a lot of sense given the CPUs most gamers have and the priorities of the studios).
An easy way to see this is to underclock your CPU as far as it will go, and see how many percent CPU your favorite game will use.
I feel bad for the poor programmers who got that job.
Civ5 is one of the games that can trigger Ryzen segfaults, guessing he has a faulty chip. He should run kill-ryzen and see if his chip is stable.
Note that contrary to popular belief, the segfault bug does not "only" affect Linux or compiling workloads (it's a litho fault - these workloads just happen to trigger it) and there is no "safe" date range of first-gen Ryzen chips. Newer chips are more likely to work properly, but a smaller number are still faulty - even some RMA chips, since AMD stopped testing them after a few months.
I went through the AMD support thread and pulled out some examples: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17074355
Looking through the latest posts in the AMD community thread, at least one user is reporting this even on a second-hand processor, although that's not really enough to make a definitive statement.
(you could argue for ps3 of course, But there it's not a choice)
Not to say they aren't behind. I once saw a game talk about how awesome they are because they reinvented a thread pool. But their state of the art is in direct conflict with good threading practices.
That said, I'd be really interested to see how some of these Battle Royale engines tick (no pun intended). It seems like there's a ton of potential for "clustering" execution, essentially treating separate sections of maps as separate games, but considering it could come down to 100 people all being within the same 100 square meters, you can't necessarily rely on that model.
I was doing that 10 years ago... in a radar signal processor. I could do the same thing in a game engine, but the games industry seems to be allergic to devs who do not come up in the games industry. I suspect that has as much to do with the poor state of parallelism as anything.
It'll be a number of years yet for large-scale multithreading to penetrate the consumer market.
92% of users still have 2 or 4 physical CPUs, so 2-8 threads.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Softw...
I'd assume given asset size they're already dealing with a large amount of cache misses, and if you're stalling for a memory read anyway then it seems less impactful than on a high-thoroughput tuned scientific workload.
GPU and Ram prices are sadly also very high at the moment... probably the worst time to build a new high end PC.
AMD is getting better, but doesn't seem quit there yet. Steam and phoronix still seem to generally agree nvidia is still the #1 choice on linux. #2 (stability wise) seems to be Intel's GPU. AMD's working on it, but decent performance often requires a custom build stack not supported on any current Linux distro. I'd rather not have to recompile my own kernel, mesa, and related just to get reasonable stable and decent performance.
On my personal experience, I disagree.
yet which still cannot run Wayland/Xwayland+XGL. And you cannot do anything about it.
As you say, these i7s are still handling the load quite nicely.
As far as heat, the Vega 64 GPU I've got draws way more power than that too. I don't think this product is really targeted towards gamers anyway, but I don't think they'd care much about the power draw.