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Comment by rhn_mk1 | Hacker News Reader

We hear the voice of those who live there, but not of those who visit. Both are likely to be citizens, it seems one-sided to give in to the demands of one group, and ignore the other. (Or perhaps both were listened to, but the article gave no indication of that.)

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In a society, peoples rights are a lot of times in conflict. In this case, I imagine that the right of the neigbours to be able to rest at night superseedes the right of the visitors to have fun by doing "botellón" (dinking on the street) at night in a residential area.

In any case, this is not special at all. Every European city has regulations about pollution, including noise pollution.

If you live in such a section, the noise is not a new phenomenon. Until recently, as people got older and had less benefit relative to negatives of living by the night life, they would move out of these areas, freeing them up and keeping the rents affordable for the next wave..

Hardly unique to Europe. It's very common in American cities to see signs outside of bars in primarily residential neighborhoods reminding people to be "considerate of our neighbors" and other words to that effect. Cities tend to be noisy but that doesn't mean everyone should take an attitude of "There are sirens and noise anyway, so honk your horn and carouse at 3 in the morning all you want."

There are probably laws against noise pollution that the visitors was breaking with impunity.

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