Can we trust Michael Arrington? (AngelGate)
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Conspiracy theories grow on the basis of black and white, good vs. evil, etc. Outside of programming, aren't we all used to varying shades of gray?
Believe is very different to wrong. If Arrington is right, McClure is wrong in his belief. He can still honestly believe it though.
One, or all, of Christians, Muslims and Atheists are wrong in their belief, but they can all honestly believe.
I'm not being pedantic here, if you read wolfrom's statement with the correct meanings you'll see how wrong your comment is, even if you honestly believed it.
There are even more colours.
Witness: I can to the lunch uninvited, people squirmed, a couple of the participants later told me they were uncomfortable with the tenor of the discussions. (From a witness perspective, first-hand facts based on personal knowledge are everything - anything beyond this is hearsay and not to be credited).
Blogger: These are the top angel investors in the Valley; I heard second-hand from a couple of the participants that they are upset about valuations, are looking for ways to cooperate to bring them down, and are also looking for ways to cooperate to freeze out VCs as co-investors and to limit the impact of rogue operations like Y Combinator; I checked with my lawyers (and am myself a lawyer) and I can tell you that this stuff, if true, is blatantly illegal and I speculate that this is why everyone was squirming.
This latter stuff is the blogger, not the witness, drawing inferences, putting glosses on the limited known facts, speculating, etc. with an overriding goal of making a story significant, newsworthy, and even sensational. This is a legitimate role of a blogger, and is a big part of what makes TC and Mr. Arrington himself sometimes insightful, sometimes arrogant, sometimes maddenlingly infuriating, but almost always interesting to a general readership that takes an intense interest in the subjects being covered.
One can "trust" the witness aspects without necessarily giving credence to the blogger glosses that are put on the facts. Mr. Arrington appears to be a straight arrow when recounting facts but watch out for those glosses: they might easily have an agenda behind them as to which the simple facts themselves are secondary (this doesn't mean they can't be true, only that they need to be considered cautiously in light of possible underlying motives).
I disagree, I personally think Arrington made a bit too far of a stretch.
Did a bunch of super angels get together and talk shop? Definitely. Are they talking about how high valuations are right now? Probably. Once you get into the "concrete plans for how to control the world" it gets a lot sketchier.
There's a strong difference between someone saying "company X is raising at a really high valuation, you shouldn't stand for that" and "company X is raising at a really high valuation, don't take it or there will be consequences". Startups talk about investors all of the time, why should the investors be any different?
If you’re looking to confirm that the people were all in a room together than I guess the little breakdown works. If you’re looking to to see if it adds up to collusion or some Valley equivalent to The Council there are some other factors to weigh.
In short, the previous cases made falsifiable predictions. Arrington had strong incentive to report accurately on them because if he was making them up he would eventually get caught. AngelGate does not share this property. If it isn't true, thanks especially to the vagueness of the story, what evidence would be likely to turn up? What if were true. What likely evidence then?
It's not a question of whether to believe unverifiable claims. The question is "why pay attention to them at all?" Until one or more angels comes forth and admits the conspiracy (very unlikely, even if true) or Arrington comes forth and admits he made it up, the whole issue is just noise.
Point is, someone else could probably cherry pick situations that make him look wrong.
Everything Arrington writes should be taken with a large dose of salt; because he is, essentially, a gossip journalist. And even before the internet you did not believe every word a gossip journalist speaketh :)
Often he is right. Sometimes he is spectacularly wrong. Sometimes, and I think in this case, he gets a rough truth and then tarts it up to make a bigger story (either deliberately or subconsciously, I couldn't say)
Bottom line is; there is no point to this post.
Doesn't appear to me that the blogger was cherry picking in any way.
For example: I immediately thought the Facebook phone story was link bait (and I still do). However, it seems there was more truth in it that I would've credited (based on a subsequent interview with Zuckerberg). Such stories drive page views but they bring Arrington's credibility into question, leading to debates like this ("do we believe him?").
With this story, the fact that the meeting happened I think is undisputed. Rather than more typically quoting an "anonymous source" he staked his personal reputation and used his own eyewitness account. So I don't doubt that part at all.
After that, it gets murky. Arrington's claims of collusion and price-fixing are probably a stretch based on the evidence but it has touched off McClure, Wilson and others. So there is something there. In the very least both sides (entrepreneurs and angels) are sensitive to the issue.
I also don't believe this is a binary problem: one of McClure and Arrington is right and the other is wrong. They can both be right, both be wrong or, more likely, both be somewhat right and somewhat wrong.
For one thing, people can believe they've done nothing wrong when they really have (note: I'm not claiming the super-angels have done anything wrong).
This is somewhat reminiscent of the DoJ investigation into anti-poaching agreements: both that and the angel collusion allegations seem motivated from cooperation but that doesn't mean they did nothing wrong.
TL:DR Arrington's observations are believable. His conclusions are premature.
I think he even says he consulted a lawyer. I'm not sure what else you want, short of the feds getting involved..
I personally lost all respect for him as a journalist when he decided to publicly blast Blaine Cook while knowing no facts other than that Mr. Cook had left twitter.
Blain having a slide at a conference saying 'Scaling Rails. Its Easy. Really', before they had all those problems, was, well, sorta asking for it.
And anyway it was 2 years ago, could he have learnt from it? This is, after all, a new medium etc. etc. so a bit of trial and error is expected. As this post points out, the hit rate to date this year is almost perfect.
(edit: I just re-read that post and boy it was a bit harsh, the comments are terrible (from both sides - a lot of grudges are being held over this, I feel).
Doesn't convince me to write-off any trust in TC though, especially not two years later. If I ignored every source that wrote a bad story I would be left with nothing atm).
Blaine's slide was perhaps poorly chosen, but it's also entirely correct: scaling the rails portion of twitter is trivial, just as it would be with php, .net, or countless other technologies. The stateless tier isn't interesting. But for whatever reason, the meme was never "mysql can't scale at twitter", but rather "rails can't scale at twitter", even though the app server stack had little to do with it.
Also, those of us who've been through the pain of a rapidly growing startup, even if it wasn't growing as fast as twitter, understand that the real challenges are people, politics and vendors. Rarely is there a deep technological problem that requires a novel solution. Typically the fight is over getting the things you need to implement a well known solution.
In particular I had a few calls with early twitter folks at the time and know first hand that the people involved were not clueless. They were quite humble and helpful in providing frank discussions of vendors and technologies we were considering.
Just because it's a blog doesn't mean it's a new medium or that bloggers shouldn't expect to be challenged on the accuracy of their claims. I don't see any reason that the expectations I'd have of reasoned discourse in person, by phone, video or print don't also apply to the techcrunch blog.
I am not saying that they shouldn't be challenged on the accuracy of their claims, I am saying that they are learning as they go. That post was a bit personal, the next one won't be.
Judging by the hit rate outlined in the post above Arrington seems to have learnt a lot about how to handle sources, stories etc. But ignoring him completely based on a few examples from years ago seems wrong.
By your reckoning I seriously would have nothing left to read atm (especially the NYTimes) - I still read it all though because I take everything at face value.
I am not going to exclude myself from an entire slice of online media just because 2,3,4 or 5 or 10 blog posts out of thousands that provide me so much information and value.
one of the sysadmins posted to a forum and then deleted it a while later.
Presumably by "one of the sysadmins" you mean me, because I ended up (somewhat badly) handling most of the PR for this debacle (I'm the Russ Garrett referenced in both of those TechCrunch posts), but I don't remember deleting any of my posts.
It didn't happen. I would have known if it had happened. I would have had to pass the data, and it didn't happen.
btw did you work out if anybody from CBS or your own company actually placed this story with TC or was it somebody from the outside?
Drinks and casual conversation are not a particularly efficient way acomplish that.
Though maybe the Boy Scouts offer a Gangsta' merit badge.
Probably north of 50% of the sales of most enterprise software companies happens over drinks and casual conversation. And probably over 90% of business development deals happen in similar circumstances.
What do you call ten competitors doing business development together?