It's just a joke really.

People really enjoy pulling this up every time a JS framework is talked about, and it's really tiring.

I say this as someone whose entire job is writing "vanilla JS" without any sort of framework!

People do have a tendency to overdo tooling and lean too heavily on frameworks to get things done, but if you're building something without one you end up creating a lot of abstractions and boilerplate yourself to do anything relatively advanced and end up with a micro-framework of sorts at the end of the day, not unlike what was posted here! There's a lot of value in taking something small like this and building off of it.

Just linking to that vanilla JS site is snarky and unproductive.

Preach! we on the vanilla JS train can speak of it's performance, easy to deploy. <script type='module'>. <template> and template literals can your app scoring 90s on lighthouse, as if server rendered.

Hyperapp and Web Components is a great combo, especially because they can help with the problem of maintaining local component state, not a feature of Hyperapp.

> mostly native to browsers already

Woosh

Excuse me, is native.

Yes. Not IE8, though.