Finland's cities are havens for library lovers
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If I remember correctly our library served as an example when designing Oodi library in Helsinki since it portraits a "new library style" municipalities are reaching for.
The goal was to get people to stay there instead of just fetching the article they were looking for. I think they achieved this since no matter when you visit the place is backed with teens reading and discussing about some manga or comics, elderly reading newspapers from around the country, poetry reading groups and so on.
Since I mainly consume my literature via outlets like HN, I use the library primarily to get books for my young kids. Even those facilities are great, there is a play area with tunnels and holes in the walls where kids can read in solitude, isolated reading "enclosures" where groups of kids can flock to when some adult reads for them and lots of other neat details. They even film some kid shows in there and the last time I visited I found out they have a good catalogue of new console games you could borrow!
This might have sounded like an advertisement but the point I was trying to make is that if someone would ask me what is the best thing our city has accomplished with our tax money, my answer would be "our library". And as everything is digital nowadays, making an effort to get people off their phones to socialize and use narrative in its original form doesn't hurt either.
A bit of background: Finnish is a small language with only 5 millions speakers. So books cost 2-3 times as much as in central Europe, although the currency is the same (Euro). That might be an additional factor for the high number of loans.
The observation that libraries are a place to socialize sounds strange to me. Except in the cafeteria, which exist only in the very biggest libraries, conversations are not allowed. So yes, libraries can he full of people when it's dark and cold out there. But it's perfectly silent.
(I live in Finland)
This. The local libraries in most small towns in Finland are very quiet. Still nice libraries, though.
Such a nice service.
Gangster 1: "There’s no library in this town. Why is there no library in this town?"
Gangster 2: "Umm... cutbacks?"
Gangster 1: "He thinks every town should have a library."
This week i had to do a movie review, i don't really watch film's or show's so i don't have netflix or anything. Library was a easy solution to this. And you get to chat with the clerk about the film while at it.
So while i find libraries filling with these ridiculous gizmos, i agree that there are more use cases for libraries than reading itself.
https://www.google.com/maps/search/library/@62.785737,22.838...
Can you elaborate how it's easier to get there than says one in Fairfax, a dense suburb of DC in Northern Virginia?
https://www.google.com/maps/place/City+of+Fairfax+Regional+L...
Overall Finnish cities tend to be built up instead of out. I've lived in Jyväskylä, Tampere, and Kuopio, and each of these had reliable bus systems and minimal traffic compared to any U.S. city I've lived in. Finnish cities also tend to include a decently robust bike/walk path within cities while here in the U.S. we mostly limit ourselves to sidewalks.
The U.S. is huge, and the states are diverse, so I'm sure my experience is anecdotal, but my observation have lived in Colorado, Louisiana, Maryland, and the aforementioned cities is that Finnish municipal planning is approached much differently than any other U.S. city I have ever lived in or visited.
That it just my experience. This site will let you play around with some stats, though I have no idea how accurate they are: https://web.archive.org/web/20140309232920/http://data.world...
Note that most Finnish vehicles use diesel fuel. There is a different category for that if you choose to explore the site. But you can see that overall automobile usage is much higher in the U.S., and we have built an infrastructure that supports it (built out).
It’s like Iceland have baths. The US has coffee shops (was shopping malls). Does Finland have libraries for this purpose?
You are required (or encouraged not sure) to do a quick intro course though where they show how to change color and start the print.
Of course "build it and they'll come" doesn't work. But if we could get more people to come to libraries, it'd be awesome in all sorts of ways. And without building it, nobody will even have a chance to come.
Librarians are also teachers and education is your best hope for fighting misinformation.
Huh? I was always under the impression that most of the books are still not available electronically. What may be true is that most of the currently published books are also published in e-book format, but that still leaves out a majority of books.
Not even close. In 2010, there were about 130 million published paper books.[1] In 2012, there were only 1.3 million Amazon Kindle books available.[2] Note that availability is region-based, so no, those books may not actually be available. Google ebook store launched in 2010 with only 3 million titles.[3] A lot of the Kindle "books" are not even books, they are pamphlets or long articles. Library genesis is only 2.1 million books.
I can tell you don't actually read any ebooks. If you did, you would notice that about a third of the digitized Kindle books have the same review: "the formatting of the book is unreadable, I want my money back."
[1] https://www.quora.com/How-many-books-are-there-on-the-Amazon... [2] https://www.quora.com/How-many-books-are-there-on-the-Amazon... [3] https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/discover-more-than-3...
I'm going to repeat something I've said previously on Hacker News: people underestimate how much information in books isn't online and just how much useful information is still tied up in those books. Many of us assume everything is mostly online and so it's our first port of call for any research or knowledge gathering.
A few years ago I was researching the Swiss architect Le Corbusier. I wanted to find out about his famous housing complex called Unité d'habitation (Housing Unit) first built in Marseille in France. I started my research online looking for floorplans and commentary or critques. I found very little (there is a lot more available online today, but not when I was looking).
Consider that Le Corbusier is one of the most famous architects of the 20th century so this was a surprise. Eventually, I did find what I was looking for by...(yes, you guessed it) going to the library and visiting an architecture exhibition. I ended up scanning some floorplans from a book (and putting them online). From the exhibition, I came across a video of Corbusier talking about the Unité d'habitation - a great find, and I ended up transcribing sections of that interview. None of this information was available on the web.
It's very easy to fall into the belief that the information you find online is likely to be the best or most recent information available on that topic - so the thought of further offline research at a library never crosses your mind. But there is a huge amount of information and knowledge found in books that has never made it online. If you never go to the library, you won't realise what you're missing.
Going through the books on the shelves there, its astounding just how much information exists that is not online at all, not even discounting that which is online but otherwise not freely available and ordered.
In the UK there is the inter-library loan service. As the name suggests, I can track down a reference to a book, then I can request the book via the inter-library loan service, where it is delivered to my local library. I can then borrow the book or consult it on the premises (depends on cost/rarity of the book). Most public libraries will charge a fee, usually a few pounds.
The COPAC library catalogue tells me which university libraries contain copies of the book I want to read which can speed up the inter-library loan turn around (usually 3 weeks).
To me this management of information that has not yet been digitised and that is not widely disseminated is very valuable now and again. Discovery and search made more efficient by free use of (expensively gathered) metadata on a public database.
I still wish I'd found more time to make use of the Cambridge University Library during my degree. It's a tremendous place to work, but I never really took full advantage of it.
Firstly, books are still superior to e-readers (which i have and use), and far better than trying to read on a screen. I'll always get the physical copy if i can, and there's still a large number of books which don't have electronic copies. And apart from sci-hub, how else am i supposed to access half of the materials that universities subscribe to if i'm not a member of the library?
Secondly, they provide a quiet space in the city and community where you can go and dedicate to reading, investigation and study without requiring private space (which not everyone has): an egalitarian space. Open to everyone, neither differentiated by money nor access to private space, which is a premium in cities. The libraries variously provide classes, community groups, meeting facilities, IT and technology, television/video facilities, and event spaces. Yarra libraries has some television screens set up with gaming consoles which I notice the local refugee and public-housing community love to use. There's cafes and eating spaces in at least 3 of the library branches I use. They also provide regularly rotating exhibitions. One provides regular performance music and events.
I value libraries because they maintain an ideal: that knowledge is free, valuable, for the whole community, and that this is important to society, above and separate from private business and the pursuit of money.
Inefficient? Hardly. A book in paper form is considered by many people to be superior form of digesting complex information.
Secondly, a library contains a) librarians that help you find what you need b) huge curated collections of books, carefully categorized c) the categories themselves! One might learn something new by just investigating what categories of knowledge there are.
Libraries are the analogue manifestation of the entire body of knowledge humankind has collected over millenia. In the past there were these silly VR interfaces in movies where the person could dive into information and find what they were looking for by diving in a sea of information. Well, that place exists in the every manifestation of a proper library adminstered by trained informaticians, and the physical shape of the thing is designed to help one find and digest knowledge.
I wonder how long this will last in Finland, actually. Banking in Finland, for example, has slashed employees drastically and tried to get customers to do as much as possible online instead of visiting a branch and talking to a human being who has to be paid an expensive salary.
So far, at libraries in Helsinki you can easily talk to a librarian who is willing to help you find whatever obscure publications or media you are looking for. But some bureaucrat or political faction obsessed with cost-cutting and automation could see this as a bad thing and believe that library patrons should instead to expected to figure out how to just use Helmet/Helka/Arsca (Helsinki’s library catalogues) on their own, except perhaps for a very limited time slot each day.
That said, Helsinki libraries have already automated a great deal. You can easily borrow items or reserve spaces without ever having to talk to a human being.
Libraries are designed specifically to be distraction free environments where one can focus. The internet might have all the info ever produced, but it is also the most distracting place ever created. And as more and more people get overloaded with info they aren't trained to deal with the craving for more focus and less distracting spaces is going to increase.
On the internet any half baked article passes for information. In the library the neuroscience floor doesn't have shelves and shelves of books written by kooks, that you have to wade through and filter out to find quality. This is huge advantage if you are doing any sort of serious work.
It’s much easier to find useful, factual content in books than via google, especially as social media slop has eaten the world.
My vision for libraries even goes farther, and that in addition to the above they should be default meeting places. Instead of meeting at a coffee shop, people should be meeting at libraries and it should be embraced. Libraries should have sections where discussions can happen, and the local community comes together.
There are also many poor folks who don't have the money for the technology you do. The library provides information services to everyone, regardless of social class or ability to pay. What if you were poor and looking for a job and had no computer or phone? To many, the library is a lifeline.
http://www.ala.org/news/news/pressreleases2010/april2010/poo...
The library is a safe place to go after school. In my town, the library hosts an after-school snack program sponsored by the local food bank. http://mchenrycountyliving.com/event/school-snack-program/
I know that for most of us on Hacker News, we swim in technology and information, but for many others in society, the library is their entry to that world.