The initial implementation used differential dataflow, but this was just merged in: https://github.com/rust-lang-nursery/polonius/pull/36#issuec...
Very cool stuff!
The initial implementation used differential dataflow, but this was just merged in: https://github.com/rust-lang-nursery/polonius/pull/36#issuec...
Very cool stuff!
I don't know about rust, but the cost of that abstraction elsewhere is pretty good. Datalog will beat basic implementations, and those that most researchers have time to implement handily. However, very well engineered purpose built solvers still beat datalog engines by a large factor (again, no theoretical reason this should be true, but it is), so production compilers still currently eat the complexity of building alias solvers. It would be nice if one day that was not true.
Sure there is a reason: Many applications, alias analysis in particular, only use a subset of Datalog. Subsetting languages very often makes for easier and more efficient implementation. If you know that there is no negation in your alias problems, your special purpose solver can be much more efficient than a Datalog solver that must be prepared to deal with negation.
Of course you might wish for a generic Datalog solver that you could run in a special mode where you promise that it will not encounter negation in the problem you give it. But that is then no longer a Datalog solver but a "well engineered purpose built solver".
As for the "built in" part, anything that is not built in must cross an API boundary and usually translate between different data representations. That is a theoretical reason for being slower.
I don't really agree. Specialized implementations for instances of a problem that can solved more efficiently than the general case are a pretty fundamental part of any mature solver (GMP is probably the most well-known example). This includes even cases where the user says to try the specialized algorithm and the solver checks that you indeed have an instance of it, rather than the specialized subproblem being automatically detected by the solver (there are many examples, but I always think of optimizations for read only transactions in databases--generally you have to declare the transaction read-only up front).
> As for the "built in" part, anything that is not built in must cross an API boundary and usually translate between different data representations. That is a theoretical reason for being slower.
The abstractions required for getting solvers to perform well on problems like this are usually sufficiently far removed from the representation you'd have had if you didn't have to solve the problem that (1) transforming it is only a small part of the overall time to solve, and (2) it is often a cost you already have to pay to some extent.
What you've offered are practical reasons it hasn't happened yet, but not theoretical reasons.
I suspect the point of disagreement is
> Of course you might wish for a generic Datalog solver that you could run in a special mode where you promise that it will not encounter negation in the problem you give it. But that is then no longer a Datalog solver but a "well engineered purpose built solver".
which I don't think is correct. A Datalog solver with the property that it can run faster on certain classes of input is great; it is not "no longer a Datalog solver".
Yes. And that is extra work that must be done. Admittedly, it probably isn't the "large factor" mentioned by DannyBee.
> A Datalog solver with the property that it can run faster on certain classes of input is great; it is not "no longer a Datalog solver".
I was talking of a special, user-requested mode in which the user guarantees that the input program they are interested in will not contain certain constructs, and the solver can reject programs that do contain them. A "Datalog" solver that rejects programs containing, say, negation, does not handle the full Datalog language and is therefore no longer a Datalog solver.
As an analogy, Clang is a C++ compiler, but passing it the "-xc" flag causes it to reject valid C++ programs, so then it's no longer a C++ compiler (although it is still the same program!).
https://github.com/dwtj/deductive-points-to-analysis-paper/b...