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IVPN (Gribaltar), Mullvad (Sweden) or PIA (U.S.) are the best bet for most users IMO. They are all fast, no logging, and have good apps.

IVPN, Mullvad are not in U.S. jurisdiction if you are concerned about that. Most people are not and just want a VPN to hide shit from ISP, etc...

Although PIA is U.S. based, they keep no logs and then they have their famous "FBI" case which they did not provide anything to them.

I myself personally use IVPN, but I have used Mullvad as well.

https://thatoneprivacysite.net/vpn-section/

This is the best resource for vpn reviews, ignore everything else.

Also https://www.privacytools.io/ is great overall and they do have a vpn section

https://www.reddit.com/r/VPN/ has a bunch of more info as well.

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Cannot agree with this enough. When I first started looking for a VPN, the only source of information I found were these disingenuous websites that based their reviews off how much vpns were paying them, with every off-site link being a referral. thatoneprivacysite is by a landslide most unbiased source of information I found on VPNs.

If you actually care about privacy touching the US in any way, shape or form is very, very dumb.

If you're a US citizen, perhaps not. NSA has open season for anything that isn't in the U.S. They can bring their full offensive capability to bear on foreign targets and largely do whatever the hell they want.

Domestic? Not as much. It becomes more of a legal/NSL game then. Granted, I'm sure GCHQ can (and does) compromise U.S. VPN providers.

Obviously it's far more complex than that, but if you're a U.S. citizen using a US-based service, there are some protections afforded.

On the other hand, I tend to believe Russ Tice when he says NSA conducts full-take domestic collection, so the aforementioned protections are largely data minimization practices, and thus they already have all your data.

Of course, Obama significantly weakened those protections prior to leaving office, as well as increasing the scope of NSA's sharing to include a disturbing amount of federal law enforcement agencies.

I can also rep Mullvad, they also allow people to pay in Bitcoin or even mail them money (with your account number attached) and they'll add time to your account. I've been using them for a few years now and never had any issues.

I tried Mullvad, Melbourne/Sydney servers, my adsl speed dropped from 14 Mbps to 10 Mbps

> Although PIA is U.S. based, they keep no logs and then they have their famous "FBI" case which they did not provide anything to them.

You know the NSA just puts a gag order and connects directly to the targets infrastructure. Doesn't matter that PIA doesn't keep logs, NSA's prism is logging everything.

I do not know this and many others probably do not. Would be great to see a source with proof that this has happened with PIA.

Just stay away from USA. They can do anything they like with their dumb laws.

Yup I know about gag orders, etc... I completely agree with the statement that if you care about privacy better go with something else not in U.S. or anywhere in the 14 eyes countries if you are really paranoid.

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