>Don't be greedy
That is hilarious. If the representative of a multi-billion dollar company (or a startup trying to become a multi-billion dollar company) every said something like that to me I'd probably laugh and walk out.
That is hilarious. If the representative of a multi-billion dollar company (or a startup trying to become a multi-billion dollar company) every said something like that to me I'd probably laugh and walk out.
There are plenty of young software engineers who hear about first-year salaries at Google and expect similar comp packages from startups. (Are they being too greedy? Meh, they're just misinformed or need to take some time to recalibrate their expectations.)
There are also plenty of companies guilty of the same thing. Their expectations are too high as they turn away great candidates because they don't have a CS degree from a top school or have an impressive track record of open source contributions.
The OP listed "don't be greedy," which sounds familiar to me. It's easy to have a few bad experiences and then draw a blanket conclusion that every tech company is trying to squeeze me. My point is only that it's frustrating on both sides, and whether you're an applicant or a hiring manager, understanding what the process feels like to the other party will make the process that much easier for you.
If they're choosing between working at a company like Google or that startup, it's not greedy to expect competitive compensation.
>that wouldn't be greed, it'd just be realism.
I think that's the point. Startups routinely want to convince people to work for them for less than established companies. They often talk about wanting to hire people who care about solving the problems they are working more than money.
When someone is being realistic by pointing out that they can make more money elsewhere, they say they are just "being greedy."
You're assuming the big paying tech firms will hire any programmer who applies to any startup. They won't.
I've often heard variations on "don't be greedy" from startups and recruiters when I was working as a consultant.
I'd tell them "We'll I'm making X now, so you're going to need to at least meet that in total comp before I'll consider it."
The response is almost always something like "We're interested in programmers who are really passionate about Y and aren't primarily salary driven, so we only pay X/2 here."