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You make a reasonable point, and I don't mean to trivialize a serious issue -- carbon monoxide poisoning caused by keyless cars -- but in comparison, bathtub drownings are far more common: about 335 a year.[1]

[1] https://www.seattlepi.com/national/article/Someone-drowns-in...

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Ah but what's the ownership rate of bathtubs compared to keyless start cars?

Ok, but what’s the ‘deep enough water to drown in’ usage rate of bathtubs compared to usage of keyless entry cars by their owners? These days bathtubs seem to be inconvenient showers...

You’d also have to consider bathtub usage (I shower daily, but only take a bath every couple of months)

Yeah, but the anti skid pad in my bathtub (which might prevent drownings) is slippery when damp, so I fell in the bath while taking a shower, and could have been killed.

I guess that sort of death goes under the “drowning” category, since the bath mitigation can kill shower-takers.

> I guess that sort of death goes under the “drowning” category

How could it be? Do you plug your drain when you shower? Are the investigators in your area too lazy to find head trauma?

if after falling the shower head is aimed towards your face you can probably drown. The fall only knocked you out, the water caused death.

I wonder if there is a forensic term for a "one-two punch" of this sort.

In my shower/tub combo, I sometimes accidentally plug the drain by bumping the attached drain cover with my foot, causing it to slightly turn and fall into place. This could easily happen if I fell.

Sometimes I have a slow drain and I don't fix the until it becomes slow enough to fill up substantially during my shower. If I were unconscious in the sub with the shower running, it could have enough time to fill up. This would be especially true if my fall caused the water to switch to tub mode, which sends a lot more water into the tub.

I had a friend in college who liked to take showers while pass-out drunk. He flooded the adjoining rooms several times when his unconscious body blocked the drain. Luckily this shower was not a tub or he may not have survived these incidents.

That was very informative, decent reasons not to let your drain maintenance get out of hand, or leave the stopper next to the drain.

> I had a friend in college who liked to take showers while pass-out drunk. He flooded the adjoining rooms several times when his unconscious body blocked the drain. Luckily this shower was not a tub or he may not have survived these incidents.

Jesus Christ, I wouldn't know about college, but that seem crazy. I hope your friend got the help he needed.

If you're considering bathtub usage, you'd also have to consider how many people park their cars in enclosed garages and how many of these cars lack safety features to prevent you from leaving it on.

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