Skeptics discount science by casting doubts on scientist expertise
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On the other hand, anthropogenic global warming is a matter of degree. Scientists largely agree that there has been some AGW (although it's not settled to nearly the confidence of evolution). What people object to is the constant bombardment with doomsday scenarios. The magnitude and implications of AGW are NOT settled and yet it's often claimed that hugely invasive and costly public policy initiatives must be enacted to combat worst case outcomes. Scientists and activists who carry the science further than its legs undermine their credibility and make it tough to discuss the issues fairly. It's pretty sneaky to suggest that if you don't toe the popular line on AGW, you're probably a Creationist.
YC = Young Earth Creationist
PC = Progressive Creationist
TE = Theistic Evolutionist
NE = Naturalistic Evolutionist
ID = Intelligent Design
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| | Selection pressure drives changes in balance of genetic traits
| | in a population over time
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| YC Trivial, yet novel, beneficial mutations happen
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| | Some mutations permanently change populations
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| ... Trivial speciation occurs via natural means
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| | Species within a 'kind' of animal (e.g., dogs and wolves) may
| | share a common ancestor
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| | Earth and universe are billions of years old
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| PC Different species have arisen over millions of years of history
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ID | Some classes of creatures not mentioned in Genesis (e.g., bacteria,
| | algae) may share a common ancestor
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| ... Fossil record accurately reflects biological diversity over time
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| | 'Kinds' of animals are not necessarily uniquely created; some may have
| | been the result of external genetic tinkering
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| | Some types of creatures may have been created *ex nihilo*, some may
| | have been genetically engineered, some may have evolved from others;
| | no ideological preference, it is a purely scientific question.
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| | All life may have a common ancestor
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| | Biological diversity is explained entirely via mutation and natural
| TE selection, but some mutations may be of 'hidden' supernatural origin
| | (e.g., God orchestrates cosmic rays to make unlikely things happen)
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| | Any creative influence exerted by God on evolution occured in
| | the setup of the universe; biological diversity in history is solely
| | a result of the operation of natural laws.
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| The origin of life itself has a purely naturalistic explanation.
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NE The origin and diversity of life, including the suitability of the
| universe to life, is explicable solely in terms of natural laws.
-However, the _predictive_ claims of climate scientists only follow from the historical facts through the means of statistical, computerized models that are, AFAIK, essentially unproven. In fact, exact quantitative predictions have consistently failed for the last two decades. There is no more science in _predictive_ climatology, I believe, than there is in forecasting the stock market (where the same kind of computer models are also used extensively).
If you'd like to see a chart summarizing the various climate forcings, then look at page 4 of this link: http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-spm...
I'm not going to track down all the literature behind those numbers here, but there are published, falsifiable arguments supporting them. Climate models aren't similar to Wall Street voodoo.
And this is simply the measurement part. _Predicting_ what will happen is a thousand times more difficult. If you want predictive science based on the laws of physics, look at astronomy. 4000 years ago, the Babylonians could predict astronomical events with much more precision than anything today's climatologists can predict about average temperatures.
Scale separation and statistical pseudoequilibrium (forget the exact term) are just assumed in order to "get results". I.e., if you didn't make those assumptions, simulations would require so many data points that they would be impossible. Nonphysical energy damping is added, since without it, most simulations blow up. Lots of important parameters are just picked roughly at random, just to calibrate the model to historical data.
Stock market predictions also tend to have one major advantage over GCM models - their proponents admit their limits.
Yes, few informed people would disagree. The problem, however, is with how the debate is presented to the public. Watching CNN or MSNBC someone would come away with the impression that the debate is between the political conservative position (either wait and see, or it's not a problem), and the IPCC.
In reality, the scientific debate is centered around the IPCC[1], with some scientists being more conservative in future projections, and some being more dire. The scientific uncertainty that you speak of cuts both ways, and could also end up revealing a nightmare scenario of climate feedbacks. See:http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2009/roulette-0519.html
[1] http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/06/04/1003187107.full...
If any media would make fair representation, they'd have to host for example 1000 scientists for one side and one (where they'd also have to constantly note that that one is typically not qualified in the area he disputes) for another (or even 10K scientists for one side and one for another etc.) That wouldn't make nice "debates" to sell advertising minutes or brag about the number of the viewers!
When you argue alone with the fool most won't see the difference.
Note also that the better title would be "The Unqualified Skeptics..."
Then the same politicians and the same media trot out "scientists" in support of various measures. Sometimes the scientists are legit, and sometimes they're cranks. Sometimes the scientists are legit, but are talking about policy preferences rather than science. And most of the time, the politician or media member giving the "scientist" the podium doesn't have the expertise necessary to understand if the person is legit or totally nuts. And all of this gets ratings, so the media keeps it coming.
Throw in a little confirmation bias -- where people remember their side's successes and the other side's failures, and therefore trust of their side's experts and distrust of the other side's experts -- and you have a recipe for divided opinion even where there shouldn't be.
I'm not sure what that even means or how you could measure it. Most political policies don't have tangible win/lose results. There are not often going to be actions that make everything peachy. Usually choices have pros and cons, and it's easier to get the public to notice the cons than it is to get them to evaluate the trade offs involved. Also, if the cons don't materialize within two years, the public will probably not connect the dots.
So watch some cable news, form your half-ass opinion and go vote.
No -- but occasionally politicians will state a particular tangible, directly measureable result they're expecting a policy to produce (either pro or con). They seem to be wrong as often as they're right, across the board.
Ideally, we'd have a policy suggestion, true experts would give us a clear understanding of the tradeoffs involved and the actual effects of the policy, and we could evaluate them and make sensible decisions. What we actually get are policy suggestions, statements from both sides' hand-picked "experts" declaring fictional effects of the policy, we vote for whatever sounds the best to us, and half the time the end result is totally different from what we thought we were voting for. And pretty much all the time, both sides cherry-pick statistics that don't really measure what they say they're measuring in order to prove that they were right all along.
And then we wonder why people are skeptical...
According to Larry Bartel's research, in some major areas of economic policy, this is not true. See http://rodrik.typepad.com/dani_rodriks_weblog/2008/03/americ... and http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_05... for more details.
Of course, insofar as you're talking about public perceptions of news media "debates", that only confirms your point.
It's even trickier when you try to rule out systematic errors by reducing your sample size further. For instance, the blog mentions one systematic error caused by D->R transitions. He then claims this is ruled out by analyzing two R->R and one D->D transition, ignoring the fact that 2 of those three transitions were based on fluke circumstances themselves (specifically Kennedy->Johnson and Nixon->Ford).
Don't want to give up smoking, drinking, sugar, driving an SUV or running the AC 24*7 ? Then convince yourself that the scientist are divided on the health benefits/global warming.
I've yet to see somebody say that scientists are divided on general relativity and therefore I don't need to worry about falling off this cliff.
Consider, for instance, the distribution of human intelligence. There is quite a bit of solid data on this (how valid is the measurement of g, how g varies amongst different human subgroups), and yet most people want to ignore it. A much smaller subset want to exaggerate it. I can't see any action people could reasonably take based on this data (except for a very small subset of people, namely judges and HR departments).
Creationists doubt the evidence for evolution, but what do they want to do? Similarly the Holocaust "deniers". (Most don't actually deny the Holocaust, they dispute the scale.)
I've yet to see somebody say that scientists are divided on general relativity and therefore I don't need to worry about falling off this cliff.
I have known people who denied Einstein's theory of special relativity. They don't seem to want anything other than to argue about it. In fact annoyance over that was why I stopped reading James P. Hogan. (This was before he expressed his more controversial views.)
There are also a number of scientists who have doubted general relativity, and they are generally credited with moving the discussion forward by providing something concrete to test. GR has done well under those tests, but it was important to have reasonable alternatives presented. (It is worth noting that 2 of the 3 classical tests of GR match the first order predictions of any theory that reconciles gravity with special relativity, and gravitational redshift falls out of quantum mechanics. So the classical tests didn't actually test the theory very well.)
Nobody sane doubts the reality of gravity though. People who are prone to walking off cliffs because they think gravity is not real generally end up dead or institutionalized for good reason.
Teach Christian mythology in science classes.
Has anyone told them?
EDIT: It's not a bad article, but it ignores the possibility that people doubt the particular scientists for legitimate reasons.
While I agree with you in principle that healthy skepticism is good, this is not that. Whether there is a scientific consensus is a fact that people reasonably are not free to be skeptics about.
I'm surprised it wasn't higher.