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In Berlin too: salaries stay much the same, but rents are skyrocketing. In 2010 a 40sqm apartment was around ~400/500€ in city ring, now they are around 700€, and the price is always without electricity and internet connection, which are extra.

If you look for a 90sqm apartment, you have to plan 1400€ at least. In general, the more rooms you want, the more you have to pay for.

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Salaries in start-up land are skyrocketing for high performing employees. SoundCloud had an average salary of ~€90k or something close to it. Lots of dual income, no kid hipster professional couples with tons of disposable income.

I highly doubt that all employees are going to be paid that highly.

The majority of tech jobs in Berlin does not pay even close to €90k per year. That is the problem with averages. You have a few people earning loads and the rest on much lower income. It would be much better to look at the Median income in Berlin.

http://blog.honeypot.io/how-much-do-developers-earn-in-germa...

People who could be working at FANG are pulling 80+k here amongst the well-funded startups or Siemens etc. Google Munich pays over €100k for their standard dev roles, AFAIK. Zurich is substantially higher, but it's genuinely more expensive.

Nice overview, seems more accurate than most other salary reports. Do you know of a similar one that includes data scientists/ML engineers?

Not that I know of, sorry. I would just check StackOverflow jobs and AngelList for the jobs with salary ranges listed

Munich is a rich city and the cost of living is a lot higher there from what I understand. Its like comparing London to almost anywhere else in the UK.

I think Barcelona sounds worse. You will pay at least that for anywhere reasonably central, and salaries are lower.

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