Comment by Clubber | Hacker News Reader

Comment by Clubber | Hacker News Reader

Parent Full thread

I believe you are confusing racism with bigotry. Here is the dictionary definition of racism:

>prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

Of course superior is an objective word, but I don't see any evidence in that quoted statement where she felt superior. Honestly sounded more like self pity, jealousy and stereotyping. "Those union people get paid way more than they deserve," "Those college kids get all the breaks." The only difference is her target were "brown and and black people."

She satisfied the first half of the definition, "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race" but I didn't see the second half, "based on the belief that one's own race is superior."

I could be wrong.

I disagree with that definition of racism.

Racism is the application of social traits, be they positive or negative, across an ethnicity of people, with little to no concern for the individual.

Stating something about African Americans along with fried chicken or watermelon is racist. Assuming, that because someone is black that they must like this is racist.

In my case, it was the said assumption that "brown and black all suck the test of welfare". The unstated assumption was that they were all lazy, and "us poor working whites" should have had access to it.

Racism also goes into "positive traits" too. Stating,"Well you're Asian, so you must be good at math." Is also racist.

In the same light, but if we talk of Men or Women, its roughly the same but called Sexist. Instead of making a decision based upon racial generalizations, its sexual generalizations.

You don't see a problem in making "racism," permanently hyperbolic?

Based on a definition of bigotry made in these comments: "stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own"

I don't think they are confusing racism with bigotry. Maybe (unhelpful) stereotypes based on race, or a racialised view of society.

You are correct. If you switch up the statement:

Then she goes into talking about her daughter who moved back in. Disabled. And when they went to the Social Security office and Welfare office, "those white people always seem to get it". She went off on a soliloquy about 'us poor black and brown people'.

Nobody would consider that statement racist.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com