How IBM quietly pushed out 20,000 aging workers
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The only place in see (more at least) old people is IT consulting. Might be biased or just perception though.
I’ve found the way around age discrimination is to actively seek out older bosses.
And it will only get worse I'm afraid. Not only is there a bias towards youth in the industry, there is also a growing move in the industry to lower operating costs. Unfortunately, the biggest cost for tech companies are their employees ( especially the older, more experienced employees with high salaries ). Add in the fact that most older tech employees are almost exclusively white and asian males, the drive towards diversity will mean the older white and male employees will have to bear the brunt of the diversity campaign. I think the next recession is going to be especially brutal for tech employees in general and older tech workers in particular.
So, yeah, as a middle-aged guy, these stories scare my pants off. However, I think this other guy's story is pretty common. I suspect that there are a lot of people who, thanks to some early success at being technical in a large company, rise through the pay scale, and then never update their skill set. These people NEED to go. They're a drag on an already-cripplingly-overencumbered organization.
You have to keep learning. Forever. After over a decade happily coding with Rails, I'm now learning Java for web applications. Yikes. I can't say I'm enjoying the experience, but I AM learning a lot.
Just throwing out a counterpoint. I'm not sure that taking the money saved, and hiring a small army of Indian college grads is the answer, but that's a whole different discussion.
The latest task was a simple web service for a poc. Java was a pom file, various classes, web.xml, etc. All that could be written as a Perl dancer app and a yml database config file.
This is where people either fail or succeed. Want to spend the weekends with your kids riding horses and not working on your skills? That's fine, but it will affect your ability to be hired. It's not "we're not hiring you because you're old" it's "we're not hiring you because you don't keep your skills modern."
Find a happy median. I'm 34 and started in this field when I was 12. I've seen it for most of my life. I have zero fears of being 40 and not getting work unless I get detached from it and start focusing on other things.
I was a sysadmin for a long time, I was a network engineer for a long time. Now I work on kubernetes. I've had to change my "field" multiple times to stay current and employable.
And please don't send me a resume with 20 years of random-old-tech-stuff on it unless it relates to what we're doing.
The Voce article doesn’t add anything to the original. https://features.propublica.org/ibm/ibm-age-discrimination-a...
Up until now, job safety. Now, I really don't know.
They are a mature business. They are at a phase of giving money back to shareholders, not inventing the next thing.
Not keeping up much with the world of computer science are we? Innovation is not limited to phones, private data mining and self driving cars. I would suggest you read about Q, or the world’s smallest computer, or the brain chip, or silicon photonics, or the 5nm transistor, etc.
If you're truly skilled, look elsewhere.
Compounding these problems is that the internet has allowed organizations to relatively easily outsource a lot of tech work to low wage countries. The combined result is that tech workers have little strength in the value chain particularly as they get older.
One bright area though is tech for smaller companies typically web technology. Small companies can't easily manage foreign workers and many are not large enough to hire an IT department but they still need a web site and often and specialized database backing it up. These types of businesses often appreciate older workers as consultants and pay them well enough, almost like lawyers or accountants.
If employees don't add enough value to justify their cost then eventually the company fails, costing everyone, not just the old or unproductive.