Thousands of people are experiencing housing instability in Seattle
seattle.curbed.com
seattle.curbed.com
It tries to claim that the mom is just in this impossible situation and there’s no possible way to get out... that living in an SUV in the Walmart parking lot is the only option.
But it also says she’s making $1300 a month [edit: from social security disability]. Honestly, why can’t she drive that expensive SUV for an hour in literally any direction to reach a place where you can get a one bedroom apartment for like $500 a month?
This is what I don’t understand about homelessness: why do people insist that they have to live in a very high cost city?
Probably because people are not inert sacks of potatoes, and they have reasons for living where they do, some rational, some not as rational, yet still valid.
This is why I also support strong renter protection laws -- rental housing is not like any other investment, it's someone's home. (note that I'm a landlord myself and still support strong tenant protection laws).
I can't seem to muster up sympathy for her. She gets $1300 a month from disability. There is nothing stopping her from going some place where the rent is cheaper. There is nothing "valid" about trying to live somewhere you can't afford.
Take away most of your income, put your family and friends in an expensive place, and then see if you can find at least a little inkling of sympathy when society tells you "Too bad you're disabled, you should be more rich if you want to live close to your family"
Military families move constantly. I have a friend who was constantly being relocated for his job. It happens.
If the job market dried up where I live now, I would pick up and move with no second thoughts.
Secondly, it does not cost $500 to move into a $500 a month apartment. You need the deposit, you need good credit, you need last month's rent, etc.
For example, this is the 2nd listing in that search, dig into it and you get this:
RATES:
Weekly @ $350.00
Biweekly @ $550.00
Monthly @ $960.00
Deposit $250-350
So that's $1200 to move in on the first month. That's a bust.
The next two other rentals aren't a fit for the person in the article, one is for men only, one is for tagalog speaking women only. The next possible rental is 170/week with a 120 deposit, so that's 800 bucks in the first month. The third possibility is "200" (per week I assume) with a 450 deposit (non-refundable), so that's $1250 in the first month. The next one would be $1143 for the first month to move in. The next after that is actually $700/mo including utilities.
There do seem to be a few legit rentals out there in that price range, but none of them have sufficient details to know if you can truly trust them, and who knows if they'll still be available when you have the time to call and arrange a visit, etc. This stuff is not as easy as a lot of people make it out to be. Sure, if you are savvy and put in enough hustle you might be able to find a sufficiently cheap place to live but it's far from a trivial task, and the signal to noise ratio on listings is such that it's going to waste a lot of your time, time you might not have.
Moving is an inherently costly proposition both from a financial and mental perspective, and people who aren't in the best state for any of those things will probably not. Living in a Walmart parking lot, as bad as it is, is stable and predictable. Moving isn't.
I would also take issue with your assertion that living in a car in a Walmart parking lot is stable or predictable.
This looks less like involuntary homelessness and more like a lifestyle choice.
Why is it the taxpayers responsibility to make sure that she doesn't have to move from Seattle?
I also take issue with the parasitic landlord class.
Are you going to tell small town America to pay for people to live in Seattle that can't afford it?
For homeless people living in the middle of a city, there's a higher density of essential services. In her case, that would be things like the microwaves or the bathrooms that she absolutely needs without an even greater inconvenience to her lifestyle. These are unreliable. They can fail from overuse or they can get taken away or locked behind paywalls because store owners don't like the fact that they attract homeless people. In a city, the density of these services makes it so that she probably knows where the next nearest one is if one of them is unavailable. It's risky, sure, but to her, it's a known risk she's adapted to live with.
She could move to somewhere cheaper, but "somewhere cheaper" is inevitably somewhere with either a lower density of people and money (and therefore fewer microwaves/bathrooms/whatever else she needs... I'm just going to refer to these as microwaves/bathrooms from here on), has less opportunity for work (not as much of a factor in her case, as you pointed out), or has some social/political aspect that makes it undesirable (like a higher rate of crime, which translates into less money or a much lower quality of life). Plus, you have to factor in the immediate cost of buying the microwaves or affording the apartment with a bathroom which she was avoiding previously. She could try and save or otherwise micromanage her money to cover the cost somehow, but when you're living paycheck to paycheck (as is usually the case), this means a few months, or even years of a worse quality of life for a life that isn't necessarily or apparently much better in the long run.
Then you have to consider intangibles like the support network, the knowledge of the area, or the environment. All of these can have a positive effect on a person's mental state, and if it's not the reason for staying in the area itself, giving it up for the unknown can easily be a reason not to leave.
The cost vs benefit is a total mystery and varies per person, and it's even harder to figure out when you're dealing with stress from your living condition.
I'm suggesting that she moves so that she won't be homeless. If she were to move, she wouldn't need a dense concentration of microwaves and bathrooms.
She doesn't work, so opportunities to work are irrelevant, though, I wonder why a well educated person with a Masters degree couldn't possibly figure out how to make a few dollars here and there with online or remote work.
And several people in this thread have already explained how she could afford an apartment on her income, so pretending that doing so would be difficult doesn't make any sense.
Finally, I don't see the argument that living in an apartment in the suburbs would be a "worse quality of life" than living in an SUV in a Walmart parking lot and surfing the neighborhood for free microwaves and bathrooms.
Because they often have friends and family in the city. It is inhumane to force people to drop their entire social networks simply because they are too poor.
I think I might have phrased it as "it's impractical to force people to drop their social safety nets", or maybe "it's unrealistic to force..."
People need help. Not all the time, but at least sometimes for sure. If you can't afford to buy help then you either suffer or else lean on someone else. Asking people (who can't afford assistance) to move away from their friends and family isn't a realistic ask.
It's like they said in that episode of Firefly - "When you can't run, you crawl, and when you can't crawl - when you can't do that... You find someone to carry you."
To the north there's Everett and that area.
Lots of options within 1hr of Seattle, if you don't have to commute it regularly.
There are many options for rooms that are <$500 a month within half an hour of Seattle:
The goal here is to find something that’s better than staying in your SUV in a Walmart parking lot.
[0] 60mph/20mpg (generous for SUV) = 3 gallons/hour * [2 to 3] hours = [6 to 9 gallons] * (ballpark)$3 gallon = [$18-$27]. For 20 days of commuting that would be [$360-$540] per month.
The story says that she makes $1300 a month from disability and doesn’t have a job.
Why does she need to drive three hours a day?
Would she still be making $1300/month in disability if she moved to Olympia? Or would it drop to near $1000? That extra $10 per day is a lot.
Especially in this case where the end result was that she ended up just crashing on her daughter's couch, moving down to Olympia or whatever to rent out some questionable super cheap room somewhere seems like it would have been a much worse decision. Perhaps she was just waiting long enough to justify "giving up" and having to rely fully on her daughter.
Why are you so defensive about the mere existence of a homeless person?
Her life has situations we cannot see from this perspective and we have not lived through. It's unhelpful to discount her situation with a smug "She could be doing XYZ better".
In the absence of such details, the article is basically just vaguely pulling at heartstrings.
Are you asking for someone to help summarize it for you or are you just musing in the time before you finish reading it yourself?