http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=2416017&caseSearchType=US_...
Between this and Oracle's ongoing lawsuit against Google for their use of Java in Android, I have a pretty low opinion of Oracle.
> The unauthorized display of our client's intellectual property is likely to cause consumers encountering this app to mistakenly believe that it emanates from, or is provided under a license from, Oracle.
I think most of us would agree that no, literally almost no one familiar with JavaScript would have believed that app to “emanate from, or be provided under a license from, Oracle”.
I know that Oracle owns Java, but I never would have guessed that they had any ownership of the JavaScript name. When I think of JS, Oracle is like the last company I would think of.
When I think of JS, I think of Brendan Eich, Netscape, Mozilla, Firefox, web development, Node.js, etc.
Google taught everybody a lesson, avoid Oracle products.
Although really Oracle should have the sense to see the state of the landscape and just drop it. It's become a generic term - in fact, it always was.
That way, they keep everything 'java' protected, without the poor PR of targeting the use of the term 'JavaScript'.
(IANAL.)
Which is fair-ish -- it should have never been named Javascript to begin with.
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=75026640&caseType=SERIAL_N...
I mean he dresses and grooms himself like the evil alternate universe version of a nice person. And everything I’ve heard is that he’s a horrible manchild.
https://givingpledge.org/Pledger.aspx?id=192
Something which only few persons choose to do
Feel free to dig into the details though if you want. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out where the rot is. :)
But rot, self interest? Not everybody can't do no evil. If he goes through with his pledge (which I assume) he will have done a lot of good. And he will have done it voluntarily. Doesn't make hime a saint, but...
(..almost ;-) - i'm joking; btw, did/will Steve Jobs, Larry and Sergey give away such a substancial part of their wealth?)
I am convinced if there was a crossroads with a payout of x dollars for both choices, but with a pretty nasty outcome for the community for choice y as the distinguishing factor, Oracle would pick y in a heartbeat.
I think a good description for Oracle is "the demon that pulls everyone down to hell with them..."
In a big budget project, they had implemented a report, like sales per month or something similar. The requirement was to sort the result by month. Any sane person would sort it by the order the months happens in a year, like January, February, March, etc... But not Oracle: April, August, December, February, January, July, June, March, May, November, October, September.
Technically they are sorted... and they requirements only said sort by month. To get it fixed the customer had to pay Oracle more money, since they changed changed the requirements.
I spent weeks and many back-and-forth emails and calls with AdWords support trying to explain that 1) our use of the term is well within Oracle’s guidelines, and 2) no, I am not going to contact Oracle to fill out a permission form for me.
It didn’t work. Not even with Level 2 support.
Thankfully, AdWords policy enforcement is completely random and nonsensical so I just duplicated the ads several times until one of them did not get flagged.
Those Hawaiian islands aren't cheap, you know...
Being the #1 doesn’t mean you’re right. It just means your ads work.
Next time, just put "Disclaimer: I work for Oracle"
Where's the documentation for PeopleSoft which actually makes any sense? (I suspect the product itself no longer makes any sense, which would explain much).
It really feels like Oracle once had amazing technology but fell into the trap of an unmaintainable nightmare and have fallen back on the legal route to try to retain their dominance.
Unfortunately, while the community advantages of having a dominant interoperation mechanism are real - like having a common tongue - it rewarded the means of attaining dominance. A sales culture. A zero-sum game. It's not enough that I win, others must lose.
And here we are.
It's old school software selling, influence the decision maker and the job is done
Wasn't their inaction risking to lose the entire Java trademark by not defending it against Netscape? Does anyone know more about the history here?
What would Google do today if someone named their language DartScript? Or what would Apple do if someone released SwiftScript?
Pun unintended I guess, but still funny.
You won't find any argument here
The only weapons Oracle has are vendor lock in and crushing competition with litigation.
Visual J++ on the other hand was because Sun sued them over a Java implementation which wasn't actually compatible with Java, and misuse of the trademark, and all that kind of thing, so Microsoft weren't allowed to call it Java anymore. This ultimately led to the development of C#, so it was probably for the good in the long term, apart from some of the bits they copied from Java in what was presumably an attempt to make it more a direct alternative.