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Rather unconventional, but Windows 10 on desktop and mobile do have a Feedback Hub [1] where Windows 10 users are able to provide all sorts of feedback, either as a suggestion or a problem. All the feedbacks are public and users can freely vote them up to draw more attention on them. The more vote they have, the more likely they receive a response from the developers and also get the priority in the queue of issues to be resolved.

I use it every so often when I notice something peculiar. None of my feedbacks actually became so popular. Even then I know one of them has been fixed. The fix probably didn't come because I have pointed it out, but I was happy about it regardless.

I couldn't find a web-link to the Hub, so I think it is not entirely public, but surely available to the Windows 10 users.

[1] https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4021566/windows-10-...

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As a Microsoft employee, I can say that that feedback is taken pretty seriously in most teams, especially if the description is good or if the problem recorder/screenshot tool is used. It's not all based on up votes.

Well then I'll report something about how my PC refuses to stay asleep after I tell it to sleep.

This happens to mine if I have an update pending, worth checking if it's an intermittent issue.

I've dug into it several times. First it was network adapter, which for some reason had a default setting to wake on any received packet (lol, wut?). Then it was waking because there was some setting deep in the system about waking up for scheduled operations. (not scheduled tasks, but timers within individual processes... why???) Now it started again but this time the power management tools report no reason for the wake.

Do you have a Display port monitor, by any chance?

After adding one, I found out that when the display goes to sleep, Windows sees it as a disconnection, and 'helpfully' wakes up to reorganize all the windows onto one display. That wakes up the Display port monitor, which triggers another reorganization, and the cycle begins again.

Serendipitous.

So that's what it is. Got a TV connected via a D-port to HDMI adapter and the stupid machine wakes when I want to just turn off the TV after I put the PC to sleep.

Googling didn't get me too far obviously.

yes I do! I have noticed the sleep == disconnect thing. I'll look into it, thanks.

> Now it started again but this time the power management tools report no reason for the wake.

I ran into this after building a system and it was very frustrating. IIRC my problems were related to my network card and having virtualbox installed. Also turning off wake for my mouse helped (bumping the desk would turn on the computer).

An independently powered external HDD connected to your PC can also wake it up. I had this problem as well but haven't found a solution that doesn't stop me from using my current setup.

I had same issue, no reason for wakeups at all.

Wasn't any device, like network adapter and power diagnostics returned nothing.

Solution: reset motherboard NVRAM. No more mystery wakeups!

My screen keeps on coming back on rather than turning off. Got any leads on that?

Did you enable Windows Hello?

I've been pretty descriptive about my desire to have Programmer Dvorak added to the list of available keyboard mappings.

Hmm...excited to hear that I can stop devoting time to figuring out why my wife's laptop constantly runs its fan due to service processes that constantly burn CPU!

This drives me nuts. I wouldn't even mind all of this stuff going on in the background (since it ostensibly improves stability in the long run) but for God's sake Microsoft, keep it in the background! More and more over the years cats background tasks related to updates and security are hogging my cpu or saturating my disk or internet I/O while I'm in the middle of using my computer. I'm away from my computer most of the day, but no, go ahead and run all that stuff during the three hours I want to use it, certainly don't respect the preferences I set saying that exactly that time isn't okay.

You can hear the fan from another room on my laptop!

Thanks svchost.exe!

I disabled updates, but it still does... something while I am sleeping.

It seems these days you need 8 cores because 5-6 of them will be kept busy running someone's CPU-spinning bug.

Heh, yeah, I'm not buying it. How long has the "Windows 10 Start Menu stopped working" bug been around now? And the most consistent fix is still to just do an in-place reinstall?

Yep. This shoots me in the face at least once a week. Also two other problems:

1. The start menu latency is now so bad you have to forcibly wait 2-3 seconds before typing your search after hitting the start button. This is on a stacked E5 Xeon workstation class machine.

2. Search is crap. I can type "visual" and visual studio doesn't come up!?!?

Yeah, Windows 10 search is garbage. Sometimes it even wont find anything at all. Sometimes, searching for control panel items you may find not so helpful results.

"Everything" from VoidTools is a good alternative. Very fast too.

Classic Shell. There is literally zero usable improvement in the new Start Menu. With how buggy it is, it's literally only worse than it ever has been.

I was using that but apparently development is now dead http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8147

I noticed recently that typing “eclipse” or any variant thereof won’t find eclipse. (On my machine, anyway) I have to do “java eclipse” or something.

Some of the problems I understand; “regedit” has to match exactly because it’s basically doing the “run” dialog box. But no idea why other stuff can’t be searched for.

This doesn't look like a bug tracker, this looks more like a forum overrun by an angry mob.

https://i.imgur.com/mUkcQh5.png

So a typical large bug tracker.

A typical unmaintained bug tracker.

An opposite case: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list

For suggestions Windows Server has a uservoice website. Not sure how often the windows team (if there is still such a team since the reorg) looks at it.

But as a non professional developer-windows user, I don't feel like it is my job to spend some time filling a detailed bug report with crash dump and reproducable steps. That's kind of the Micrisoft support/QA team offloading their job on their users.

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