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44 pointsBerislavLopac17 comments

Most fascinating part of these notes for me:

> "US Tech companies key asset for America; Breakup strengthens Chinese companies"

Is China the new anti-regulation boogieman?

Can somebody who understands the domain better than me explain how keeping facebook from continuing to acquire tangential businesses (whatsapp, insta)/forcing them to split those already acquired back out would give power to Chinese competitors?

Or am I asking the wrong question? What forms would a likely breakup of Facebook take that this defense is reasonable?

Part of the problem is how the current economy and the ad bubble works, causing companies to grow and shrink quickly. Another good example here is Google and DoubleClick. I wrote an essay about that topic: http://yuhongbao.blogspot.ca/2018/04/google-doubleclick-mozi... It is unfortunate that there seems to be less interest in Google.

monopolies are good, mmkay.

I am profoundly uncomfortable with this sort of propaganda. It's straight out of the Bernays/Lipmann playbook of yore.

Perhaps a breach of privacy, but propaganda?

Propaganda is fundamentally about convincing people of things that, if believed, are beneficial to you-- regardless of whether they're true. Accordingly, this often includes "spin."

- CA Section: It's someone else's fault.

- Compensation: Misdirection, obviously false statements (e.g. "It couldn't happen now")

- Scraping: Lies (e.g. "found out about [scraping] abuse 2 weeks ago")

- Accountability: Act as if it's only about firing people.

- Data safety: Not actually addressed.

- Business model: Actual lies (e.g. "FB doesn't sell data")

Oh, I understood that posting the photo was propaganda, not the actual content of the notes. I guess the meaning of the parent post was ambiguous.

The Tim Cook section is clearly spin, presumes the Congress critters can’t see through it.

- My dog doesn’t bite but if it did, his dog bites too.

- My dog bites, but you should complain about his dog.

In this case, MZ dog bit you; TC dog asks first, defaults all off, and asks again every new thing.

More spin, Apple got plenty bad press for e.g. Path, Uber, exploits or misuses, gave quick fixes then deeper global changes.

Most importantly continues a clear theme of user data ownership, privacy and protection. This dog tries to not bite.

False equivalency and misdirections are spin.

Interesting to zoom in and read.

Zuckerberg, no one calls him Zuck.

Technically when Zuckerberg was at Harvard he had a blog called "Zuck on it".

If he’s going to make a run for politics he’s got to cultivate some sort of nickname. Else he’ll wind up being The Zucker in every newspaper appearance.

Everyone who works at Fb does.

Well, not to his face at least.

These are incredibly sad, not only for what they leave out or obfuscate, but especially for what they felt it necessary to include. They seem like the notes of a flunky, not a Harvard grad.

The contents certainly might be, but I think having a reference sheet like this is the absolute minimum for this sort of hearing, to maintain any sort of coherent argument. There's certainly enough to attack in the contents, rather than the fact that he had these notes or needed them.

> Lots of stories about apps misusing Apple data, never seen Apple notify people. > Important to hold everyone to the same standards.

I was under the impression that Apple is very good at avoiding personal data leakages, and privacy in general. Is this true, or just hot air?

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