The Why of Cooking (2017)
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Food is probably the best success in that area, combined with the observation that constraints breed creativity. My cooking gets high reviews (from friends, not critics http://joshuaspodek.com/food-world-reviews) and has inspired my passion and podcast on leadership and the environment http://joshuaspodek.com/podcast.
Two constraints revolutionized my cooking:
- to avoid food packaging
- to avoid food where fiber has been removed
Joining a CSA/farm share helped a lot too, by forcing a deluge of new produce on me that I had to figure out what to do with. I guess a third constraint was not to allow any food to go to waste.
The three constraints force me to cook almost entirely from fresh vegetables, fresh fruit, and bulk legumes, nuts, grains, and seeds (filling bags I bring with me to the bulk food store).
My diet became bland when I stopped packaged food since I didn't know what to do and mostly steamed vegetables or fried them with garlic and onions -- not bad once in a while but not exclusively. I don't like bland and do like delicious (I'm funny that way), so I experimented and learned how to combine flavors and textures to my tastes.
Now my food is more delicious than ever. It's also cheaper, more convenient, and more social (I've met the farmers and visit their farm annually, and I invite people to dinner more than ever, plus I get invited to cook for friends' dinner parties). I love finding new local produce and the change of seasons bringing foods I haven't had for a year. I also pollute less -- I last threw out my landfill garbage in June.
If you've read this far and care for advice, I advise just forcing yourself to cook from scratch for six months, no exceptions. Your diet will be boring and bland for a few months, but by a year, you'll find your diet more delicious than ever. At least that worked for me. My blog posts a lot about avoiding food packaging http://joshuaspodek.com/js_blogseries/avoiding-food-packagin... and such if you click around.
Oh, and buy a pressure cooker.
I have tried and tried and tried to cook like you suggest. I end up wasting food as it goes bad before I can use it. I have a small apartment and ended up going to the grocery store every 2 days to restock. Some ingredients aren't sold in quantities appropriate for 1-2 people, so things go stale or expire before they get fully used. I wasted way more food attempting to change my food practices than I did maintaining the way I was raised.
I'm skeptical about farm shares, I don't think it scales. If it became more popular, you'd had everyone hopping in their cars every weekend and driving out to a farm. Much more efficient to load everything on 1 transport truck than to have a thousand cars on the road just for picking up produce. And in winter climates, you aren't growing anything in the ground, so this produce is being shipped in to the farm anyways, just ship it to the grocery stores. Or it's being grown indoors, which requires increased energy usage (might be less energy intensive to ship veggies in on a truck than to grow them indoors?).
Our modern food system, for all of its faults, is the only thing that works for everybody. Poor people? Disabled people? Car-less people? Dietary restrictions? All covered. Your diet and way of living works for wealthy, healthy people with time on their hands. It's not realistic at all.
As to your second paragraph...have you considered the possibility that you, specifically, didn't do a good job of cooking for yourself and that the fact that you failed to cook this way could be, well, your failure (to plan or execute or whatever), rather than a global failure of the idea "cook for yourself and use fresh produce"?
As for farm shares, many/most CSAs deliver, either to the home or to a central location in town (often a local co-op). So it is, in fact just one delivery truck driving down the highway.
And to your final paragraph, I simply say that that is an utter failure of imagination. At the moment, it's absolutely true that participating in this kind of eating & cooking demands some flexibility of schedule. Mostly, wealthier people are the ones who eat this way. Now, why is that the case? Well, our entire food production and distribution system is built around a different model. Deviating from that model, given the current state of the system, is expensive. That doesn't mean that people with the power and resources to do so shouldn't actively work towards changing the system into somethign more sustainable and accessible for all. In fact, in NYC there is an incredible farmer's market (called "greenmarket"), which runs in several poor neighborhoods and accepts food stamps, and it's life-changing for many people. I think that if you spoke to a few of the people who shop there, you'd never be as offhandedly dismissive of "eat fresh produce & cook for yourself" as you are here.
True, but people DO spend a lot of time optimizing their food; dieting is a huge trend.
> have you considered the possibility that you, specifically, didn't do a good job of cooking for yourself
Yes, I admitted as much. My point was that it's really hard to "cook for yourself and use fresh produce". There's nothing wrong with the idea, it's simple and noble, but the practical application of it is very challenging.
> As for farm shares, many/most CSAs deliver, either to the home or to a central location in town (often a local co-op). So it is, in fact just one delivery truck driving down the highway.
So how is that any different than what grocery stores do?
It takes practices, but that is part of learning.
Only a problem for 2 countries in the world. The rest of us have this figured out.
I'm really interested to know how you transitioned. I'm a recent graduate and I'm planning to pursue a graduate degree, and I'm overly concerned with rules, which provide structure but also seem to constrict my learning and work.
- Understand what the rules are, why they are in place, and to whom they matter. Some are there to keep you from hurting yourself, some to keep you from hurting those on your level or below, some to keep your advisor from abusing you, and a lot to make sure you act in the best interest of the University via minimizing its liability, etc. You don't need to follow all of them all the time, but have some real justification when you do go off course, don't call attention to it, and don't screw anyone else over.
- For your research, you need a dual-prong strategy of making sure you check off the boxes for others, i.e. actually doing what your advisor got funded to do (she is on the hook for this for most grants), on time and under budget as well; then, pour all the rest of your efforts into researching what you are interested in, with an eye towards building your skill sets for the future and learning how to learn alone. Read widely enough to know the range of options for a solution space and deeply enough to know what has actually been tried in your field, and not just what has succeeded. Teach yourself stuff that your advisors don't know. The payoff from a broad familiarity with programming, statistics and discrete mathematics is large, especially if they're under-utilized in your field, and these skills are widely transferable. Furthermore experimenting/exploration through computing is often super cheap and the cost of failure is low, unlike destructive analysis of your physical samples.
- Keep your datasets small enough that you can master them. In the natural sciences, many scientists just want more and more data but getting and maintaining data is labor-intensive and has a huge opportunity cost. You don't always learn a lot of transferable skills that way unless you want to be a lab tech forever. The major exception is when obtaining data is primarily observation and measurement, which are really important to building intuition and just noticing subtleties.
Seconded, including a winter CSA, which gave me new appreciation for several root veggies I'd neglected (e.g. parsnip, rutabega, turnip). It can be an engaging challenge to use it all - in an Iron Chef sort of way.
Although, lots of research has greatly improved, and I warmly recommend you to read “Modernist Cuisine: The Art and Science of Cooking” (2011).
Then, for techniques, I strongly recommend following a book designed for chefs when they learn. For example, in French, I recommend “La Cuisine de Référence” (2015) by Michel Maincent that teaches you how to select ingredients, cut them, to various traditional techniques and how to correct them if you fail, and why you failed.
Fast forward many years and I was trying to work on a bolognese sauce. My wife likes meat/tomato sauces on spaghetti. I think it's weird because long pasta like that should be with an oil/cream based sauce. Anyway, I figured it would make the dish much better if I somehow coated the spaghetti with olive oil and then spooned the meat sauce on top. But how to easily coat the spaghetti with olive oil? I figured it would be easiest to float a tablespoon of olive oil on the pasta water and then draw the spaghetti through it as I took it out of the water. And then I realised what I was doing :-) Still not sure if that's why people suggested it oh so many years ago, but it works a treat!
You're doing the same thing you are complaining about: Postulating something as an axiom but not even trying to explain why you think it may be the case.
Anyway, as another commenter said, the commonly stated reason for oil in the cooking water is to stop the pasta sticking together. The commonly stated reason against oil in the cooking water is that it coats the pasta and makes it harder for the sauce to stick to it.
The main drawback to putting oil in the pasta water or tossing the pasta with oil/butter afterwards is that some pasta sauces won't stick too well to oiled pasta. This may not be such an issue with fattier sauces: cream sauces or something with ground meat, since they already have oils in the sauce. Vegetarian tomato sauces (regardless of fake meat) seem to fare worse.
Also, +1 on `Modernist Cuisine: The Art and Science of Cooking`.
Pasta cooking in boiling water has a tendency to over boil as the flour is very good at making stable foam that will rise in your pot.
The oil acts as a anti-foaming agent[1] here[2].
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defoamer [2]: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/jctb.2804301...
In Italy no professional chef I know would allow oil in the boiling pan ("that's what Frenchies do, because they don't know how to cook pasta without making it stick" being the common answer)
If the result is the same, I'm all for that method.
Feel free to continue your way, if it' the same to you.
Don't even try to make me believe that you get 'better pasta' by fussing over it. Its not the star of the dish - its just a vehicle, and 'cooking' is just making it softer. Not adding anything magical.
IMO, tomcooks' comments aren't arrogance; they're an expression that some people genuinely enjoy the process of cooking and are perfectly happy (in fact, happiest) if they remain thoroughly engaged in the preparation steps.
To me, it's a bunch of wasted time; to them, it's enjoyable. Replace "cooking dinner" with "computer programming on an unpaid side project" and many HN readers will understand that we/they enjoy it immensely while others would see it as a tedious waste of time.
The Food Lab by J. Kenji Lopez-Alt
Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat by Samin Nostrat
Ratio by Michael Ruhlman
I mean, sure, this is mainly motivated by the fact that I hate cooking. But it also just makes logical sense to me as a way to organise the universal human need for food, like we’ve done for other universal human needs.
Now that I'm back in the UK I mostly just prepare a bunch of sandwhiches twice a week.
I hate cooking.
>this is mainly motivated by the fact that I hate cooking
And there you go. I would add that you lack cooking knowledge and ability. If you knew how, you wouldn't say such things. I make breakfast every morning and dinner every night. I make lunch when I'm home. It isn't hard.
So the recipe magically chooses itself?
So the food magically appears in your fridge?
So the dishes magically wash themselves afterwards?
So the left-over ingredients magically use themselves up?
I really hate when people downplay the time cost involved in food preparation by focussing on only one step of the procedure.
In the time it takes you to go to a restaurant, or order online, I can cook a meal for four at half the price you paid.
I hate when people downplay the time and cost involved in eating out as if there is none.
Last night, I made a two prime, strip steaks with red potato chips and a side salad. It took me less than 30 minutes. Admittedly, the salad came from a bag my wife bought on the way home cause I forgot to buy vegetables.
Most of that time was waiting for things to heat up. A few minutes for the pan. Longer for the oven for the potatoes.
This morning we had eggs with melted cheddar, english muffin and bacon. I bought the muffins cause it's harder to make than regular sourdough bread I bake. It took me 10 minutes not including opening up the packages and getting things out of the fridge.
Eating sandwiches may be boring, but it is very time-efficient.
Speaking for my experience: I go to the supermarket once a week, replenishing staples and looking for interesting (and cheap..) stuff. Then later in the week I know what's fresh in my fridge and what's stored the pantry and when I get hungry late afternoon my subconsciousness is thinking about possible meals while I do other stuff. Leftover ingredients go back in the fridge and the cycle of "What's available today?" continues. And I ignore the dishes for every other day or two, because I'm lazy.
There is most of the time just one or two steps, because there is a rhythm and practice and a cycle. One-time event cooking in a tabula rasa environment, yes, that's more complicated. But that's not daily life.
> And I ignore the dishes for every other day or two, because I'm lazy.
That's cute. I do the dishes every Sunday. That's how away-from-home I am.
There are a lot of things in life that people know how to do but still hate...
I might know how to drive to work for 45 minutes everyday, I can do it, I can do it well, I can still hate it because it's a waste of time that I'd rather be using for something else.
Hell, people do jobs to earn a living that they're entirely competent at but still hate.
So no, knowing how to do something doesn't automatically mean you don't hate it, does it?
Yes, overall it's definitely going to pay off(even just after a month or two), but I think it's easy to forget there's still a decent barrier to starting. I ate a lot of burnt chicken when I first moved out. :P It took a while to afford the pots, the pans, and eventually the thermometer to fix that vs just eating the cheap banquet meals / boxed food.
I wonder if your dream of communal kitchens are somewhat hampered by urban layouts, at least here in the U.S. If every time you want to eat you have to hop in the car and drive a mile, it adds a strong point to the side of just finding something at home.
And yet a lot of cultures do expect you to know basic sewing (eg reattaching a button is expected from every recruit in the military) and I assume everyone who was a scout has made his own bread.
> I wish we could move away from every individual cooking for themselves and towards socially acceptable communal kitchens or something.
You have that everywhere where life and work is mixed: Small, cheap breakfast joints and inexpensive roadside kitchens that have a very limited menu and serve traditional, local food.
As someone who loves cooking, the idea of real communal kitchens does not sound good - been there, done that and the countless hours spent cleaning before I dared to handle food did not fill my pension fund... (You don't need "cyber"-laws to shut down a hackerspace, just send hygiene inspectors.)
Cooking is still a way I relax and one way I show affection to friends and family. There is a certain satisfaction from having a meal where you raised and/or made every item on the table from raw materials. For instance this morning I made my wife and I egg sandwiches with sourdough bread we baked yesterday morning, red pepper jelly we put up last year, onions we grew and stored over winter, bacon we smoked from a hog we helped raise, eggs from some chickens we help take care of, and microgreens we grew in the basement. We (clearly) live in a rural-ish setting so I realize what is possible for us is not possible for those living in a major metro area (except maaaaybe Portland), but aspects of this are possible almost anywhere if you want to try.
Then there is the nerd factor where you can get into the science of cooking a la modernist cuisine and that takes it to a whole other level in engaging with my engineering side....
I have an idea on how I would do it but do you care to share your method?
In principle, the price of food preparation should be smaller when done on a large scale, but for some reason it's not the case, except for the Southeast Asia.
what exactly makes your idea of a communal kitchen different from a restaurant? is it free?
> The downside of learning to cook primarily through recipes, then, is that these small eurekas—which, once hit upon, are instantly applicable to nearly any other dish one prepares—are most often arrived at via triangulation. It’s like trying to learn a language only by copying down others’ sentences, instead of learning the grammar and vocabulary needed to put to paper lines of one’s own.
Is that necessarily bad?
I can totally buy individual differences in how people take to new information, but I've always had best results with applied learning, and later reading or realizing the rules. It's how we all learned to speak, and it's how I later learned this language.
I'm sure that it's most efficient for a machine to learn the game of football by just parsing all the rules, but for a human I imagine it's much harder to retain those rules without having played some touch football in the park or watched games as a kid to build a model on which to apply those rules.
So, exactly like how people learn the language they speak best -- their native one...
This drives me crazy about recipes e.g. adding vinegar to poaching water is recommended in lots of perfect poached eggs guides but few explain why (makes the whites firm even faster to prevent them from dispersing in the water). It's really 'teach a man to fish' kind of stuff, knowing the why gives more flexibility.
And with the knowing why things are done, you can use that to experiment a bit more yourself.
:-)
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2010/se...
[1]: https://www.seriouseats.com/2013/03/how-to-poach-eggs-easy-w...
I don't see how any modulation of the timing can produce anything other than a thicker or thinner layer of white stuck to the inside of the shell. What exactly happens when you do it - does all the white come out? Do you use older eggs perhaps? The older the egg, the less the shell sticks - but the more it disintegrates in water, so I always try and use fresh ones or poaching...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Poachies-Non-Stick-Poaching-Bags-Wh...
It isn't, not where I'm from. The standard way of learning how to cook in Poland is by watching your parents/grandparents do it.
[Cooking for enginneers](http://www.cookingforengineers.com/) offers a nice system to learn how to cook
It's holding my teenage son's interest. McGee wrote a good textbook, not a novel. You have to want to understand the topic and be willing to put in some work, to stick with it.
The idea of applying principles to cooking didn't work for me, even though it seemed like a reasonable approach to my 10 year old mind. I presume this happens to everyone to some extent, and that's why we have this recipe culture, we have it because it works.
It's a shame this ancient ritual is not fully appreciated for what it truly does for society.
For things like vegetables, sure, but if you need to buy a steak or chicken breast you... just stick them in your pocket? How does that work exactly?
Meanwhile an evening of sushi workshop in london costs 80£ and it is fully booked till August.
(Also if you're looking to get into sushi and £80 is a problem I have some more bad news for you)
With 100s of good YouTube channels on exactly that, it's easier than ever. And you can always ask a friend/relative to show you.
Except if by "good food" you mean "expensive high-end dishes" -- why would you start learning to cook with a "sushi workshop"?
The advantage of starting alone: you don't have to cater to anybody else's tastes! Pick the most ridiculously delicious thing you can think of that fits your time/skill/price budgets, and cook that.
HN is not precisely known for its culinary excellence, but if you're looking to get started with some particular dish or kind of dish, geeks who cook would probably be happy to give you some more specific pointers!
I might also recommend something like Blue Apron if you want to just have a bunch of food pushed your way with recipes and start just trying stuff out! Not sure what they have in the UK along those lines though.
Julia Child, "the way to cook"
Jeff Potter, "Cooking for geeks"
Kenji lopez-alt's "the food lab"
The author does compare to most of these, so the recommendation seems solid.
I like Ruhlman's "Twenty", maybe followed by "Ratio".
"How to Cook without a Book" by Anderson is great, although you probably needwhole rooms in your house for food storage if you took her "what you should have in your pantry" serious.
My most used cookbook is the one my mother gave me and all my relatives when we were living alone for the first time. It's the book she uses at school. It's for special-needs children, so extremely basic and easy, with many, many quirky illustrations.
But it has everything important. Bechamel? Sure. Choux pastry? Yes. But also how to cook potatoes or eggs.
The only infuriating thing in this book is that the index is worse than useless. I know the important recipes' page numbers by heart.
https://longform.org/posts/longform-podcast-243-samin-nosrat
In point of fact, this exact thing happened last night after I made chicken piccata for the first time.