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to be honest, sony have a track record of doing this. bought a music CD or games? get a rootkit.

if you still buy sony products, I can't be sory for you.

> if you still buy sony products, I can't be sory for you.

Such condescension towards those not in the know, even though they are likely allies or soon will be, is pernicious and self-defeating.

I read the condescension as being toward those who /are/ in the know, yet still buy Sony products.

It's condescending to anyone who buys Sony products.

I hear you but I still think it should be reasonable to buy a random product from the store and not have it actively try to poison you, set your home on fire or spy on you. And yeah, I'm so entitled as to expect this without having to carefully follow news about companies that do these things.

I think the law already did a decent job on poison & fire, so maybe there is hope for the privacy too.

Any good tv recommendation, if not Sony?

Not Samsung.

I've been reasonably happy with my Panasonic.

panasonic has a good middle ground on quality (hardly hear about bad panels, dead pixel, different from LG), new tech (only brand to have plasma and oled early on), and price.

Panasonic Viera TVs used to have adverts in the EPG. It's an industry-wide shitshow

http://gonedigital.net/wp-content/uploads/PanasonicEPG.jpg

Hmm, I remember going through this debate awhile ago and settled on Vizio.

Vizio may not be such a great choice: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blogs/business-blog/2017/02/...

I don’t trust Vizio since they watched people’s viewing habits without people’s permission: https://www.theverge.com/2017/2/7/14527360/vizio-smart-tv-tr...

That’s worse than the Samba.tv app in the OP since Vizio didn’t even tell people they were doing it.

Ahh crap, didn't see that. Well I'm glad I kept the thing off the net.

What a mess, I'm really curious to see if there are any good choices. The trouble is what is good now may turn into a turd somewhere down the line.

What do you consider good? Even bottom barrel TVs today have good picture quality, so I look at big brands (Samsung/Sony/Vizio/LG/etc...) and buy whatever one doesn't have 'smarts'. Admittedly, I stay way behind the TV technology curve though. I might get 4k when my current TV breaks years from now.

Currently I have a Samsung and 2 LGs in the house.

i have a Philips with Ambilight, which is nice.. less tiring to the eyes. also mine is just not smart enough yet to cheat on me :)

TCL might be the best option since they’re running a Roku OS. I just picked up an LG B7A (great time of year to buy 2017 TVs on markdown) and it’s great but the advertising crap was a minefield.

About a month ago I got a TCL 55P607 based on a review by the Wirecutter: https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-lcd-led-tv/

I absolutely love that media interfaces are getting snappy again (e.g., no more hitting a button on the remote and waiting 4 seconds to it do finish opening a menu).

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