Falling Chinese Space Station to Crash This Weekend
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Reentry Information
Tiangong-1 is currently predicted to reenter the Earth’s atmosphere around April 2nd, 2018 02:00 UTC ± 7 hours.
This prediction was performed by The Aerospace Corporation on 2018 March 31.
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From 11:05 to 11:25 UTC the perigee dropped ~10km (165 to 153)
Whew! Glad they narrowed that down some!
I'd think there would be significant variation in that simply due to weather. If I remember right, the atmosphere expands quite a bit on a sunny day.
Solar flares and other similar events happen all the time. They're not really noticeable at ground level, because they don't appreciably affect the sun's visible brightness, and the density of matter involved is tiny compared to the atmosphere at ground level. But at the heights where satellites orbit -- where the atmosphere is already extremely tenuous -- solar and geomagnetic phenomena can have a huge relative effect.
The expansion of the earth's atmosphere due to heating effects has very much to do with clouds.
The proportion of reflected light is called the "albedo", which ranges from a theoretical maximum of 1 (a perfect mirror, or a theoretical white surface with no absorption) to 0 (a theoretical "black body").
White clouds reflect a lot of the incoming sunlight (have a larger albedo). Light that strikes the ground from a clear sky causes more ground heating, which causes more air heating, which causes the atmosphere to expand.
ATW, the Earth's albedo can range from about 0.9 (fresh snow on the ground) to about 0.06 (open ocean). White clouds can approach about 0.8.
Edit: the height of the tropopause (the boundary between the troposphere and the stratosphere) varies from about 9 km (over the poles) to 17 km (over the equator) due largely to the greater temperature in equatorial regions. So that layer of the atmosphere, at least, is nearly twice as thick in warm regions than it is in cold regions. See:
The alternatives occur because it is losing speed only very gradually with each orbit through the upper atmosphere. Tiangong-1 goes around the planet every 88 minutes, and one of those orbits will lose enough speed and altitude that the vehicle disintegrates due to heat or drag. It's just that due to variations in the upper atmosphere, we don't know which orbit exactly will finally tip the balance.
This is in contrast to a controlled re-entry vehicle e.g. Soyuz that washes off something like 150m/sec in a single engine burn to place it on an known and specific sub-orbital trajectory to get home.
The Wikipedia page lists its intended perigee and apogee at 168-178km. So either Wikipedia, or the article, are mistaken.
For reference, Salyut, the old Russian space station, was in orbit at 220-280km. The ISS and most others orbit around at a little over 400km.
Still, I wonder if the data in the app is updated regularly enough to account for the recent changes, or if it's just showing the original orbit?
"Western space experts say they believe China has lost control of the station. China's chief space laboratory designer Zhu Zongpeng has denied Tiangong was out of control, but hasn't provided specifics on what, if anything, China is doing to guide the craft's re-entry."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tiangong-1-tracking-the-chinese...
https://www.wired.com/story/you-can-model-chinas-tiangong-1-...
What's interesting to me is that China haven't officially admitted to losing control of the station, they have only admitting to lost telemetry- so we must rely on external sensors to track it. I suspect (but don't have any real information on why) that they are doing this to avoid some sort of admission of guilt in the event that it ends up hitting a populated area. I'm not entirely sure but admitting you lost control of an orbiting school bus might be seen similarly to a kid that accidentally breaks your window with a baseball- it wasn't intentional, but that kid is still paying for the window. If your window gets hit by something, but the kid never admits that it was his ball ("gee mister, I lost my ball yesterday but I'm pretty sure it didn't go in your backyard"), then maybe he can get away without paying for it.
Here's one such notification: http://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/oosadoc/data/documents/2017/aa...
What they haven't said is "the reason it's going to deorbit at an unspecified time instead of an exact time is because we've lost control so we can't do a controlled reentry burn to have it splash harmlessly in the Pacific. So if it puts a few redhot hunks of ceramic through an apartment building there's nothing we can do. Sorry."
Everyone knows they've lost control, and it's not the first time a country has lost control of a satellite. But maybe they get some legal benefit out of not admitting the loss of control. Because otherwise they should confess, it's not like this is the first time a country has lost control of a satellite.
given that the international treaty explicitly states that the nation which launched such stuff should be responsible for its possible reentry damages, is there any international laws or treaties stating that the debris still legally owned by the nation that launched it?
the chances of "it hitting you" is low, but chances of it hitting some place on earth is 100%. Hence precautionary measures should be taken,
Also it is likely that some large pieces like pressure tanks will survive reentry.
If we were to assume that falling satellites hit nuclear reactors with a frequency of once every 200 million years, how much money do you think should be spent preventing accidents of that type?
A big meteor could punch through both the concrete dome and the underlying steel containment. If that happens, we will probably be glad it hit the reactor and not nearby New York City. As long the meteor doesn't replace the steel containment structure with a crater but merely damages it (after obliterating the dome), we have at worst a second Fukushima. What made Chernobyl so bad was that the cooling water caused a giant steam explosion, carrying radioactive material high into the atmosphere. That failure mode is impossible in any reactor operated today.
However, the chances of hitting it by accident are absurdly tiny. It would be pretty hard to hit from orbit deliberately; maybe the only people who could do that are SpaceX.
1. absurdly low probability
2. power plants are built to withstand airliner crashes having far more energy
3. it'll be insignificant debris, broken smaller than pieces of that space shuttle
4. the comment smells like nuclear fearmongering
It may be wrongly assumed that everybody here is nerdy enough to know all these things.
As for 1., sure, but still (probability x damage) makes it nevertheless reasonable to consider it, even if it is later dismissed.
4. - agree, and that's my problem. Sounds like [1].
Additionally, the chance of orbital debris striking any particular location on Earth is nearly zero, so it's a bit foolish to over prepare for something that is less likely than winning the lottery several times in a row.