I am unlikely to use your site if it requires me to use a Google or Facebook login. Those companies already have too much power to fuck my life up, I have no interest in giving them any more.
precisely. In my experience, this small minority can actually be subdivided broadly into two groups: those with very high data privacy concerns and scammers/spammers. It turns out that in my experience, the high level data privacy concern people have been the vastly smaller of the two groups, so at the end of the day you are sacrificing a tiny fraction of a fraction of potential users while simultaneously removing tons of scammers from your platform. Admittedly, the ratios probably vary depending on the particulars of your pricing models and potential scam vectors that can be applied to your software, also other factors such as local attitudes toward data privacy (my experience has been in the EU). You can also increase sign-ups by a large portion of the data privacy people by simply doing a lot of things to make your services legit i.e. have domain names registered to the real business or contact person, force https, have a high level overview of your terms and services that clearly and succinctly states how you use users data, have a verified https certificate, etc. But in general "social login only" has been so much better for me than mixed or only email logins I really would not want to go back to the alternatives.
However, I login with Google all the time.
I have my reasons for these choices and I'm sure many people here share those reasons, and I'm also sure many more don't share those reasons, but the reasons are not important in this discussion.
If you're going to offer social login, then offer at the very least all the major social logins - some really are more acceptable than others, the problem is, everyone's set is different.
Note that ‘major’ can be different for different countries, regions, markets, product types. So be sure to know your target audience.
If I'm VERY interested I'll consider google or github or something, no matter how interested I am I'll never use facebook or twitter etc.
How do you test this? I'm not sure how to test this though as there are flow-on effects on preventing registrations ie less word-of-mouth.
I personally don't care. As I have nothing to hide and I trust most of the businesses providing federated logins.
Also, makes life a lot easier. Not only as a developer, but as a user.
Sorry, but every time someone says the phrase "I have nothing to hide" I have to roll my eyes at them. How is that 'argument' in times of the recent facebook scandal still a thing?
I know that most people live under a rock, because changing habits is damn difficult and its much easier to make up arguments to support one-selves behaviour than to question and change it, but really these people should start waking up soon.
It seems they are led to the corporate social media butchery where their personality and individuality is taken piece by piece and soled to the highest bidder.
How much has to be taken from you before you recognize that you can be remote controlled by the organizations with power and money?
And will you even have still the will to recognize that and try to change it or will you sedate yourself with the argument that you can trust big brother to watch over you, because he knows best and its so convenient not having to make changes or decisions anymore.
The question is, whether you can hide your private conversations from now on and the answer is yes.
For students google log in is essential. Having to create an account, then click a link in an email, then use a site is too hard. It takes too much time and there are too many points of failure. So 99% of comp sci teachers are choosing sites with social logins. So future programmers are all going to prefer them.
Where the hell do you teach comp-sci?!
What email have they entered? School or personal? Or their apple email?
I can't remember most of my passwords, if I could that would be a serious security issue. Password managers are a must in this day and age.
A password manager is just another point of friction.
What type of background brings you to HN? I’m surprised that you find PW managers friction if you are a HN trader. Can you share what you don’t like about PW managers?
Note getting my boss to use a PW manager is like pulling teeth. But she does not have interest in things like HN and a PW Manager could solve some of her it problems almost every week, saving her (and me) time.
How does a password manager work on a random PC in a random school? It doesn't solve my issue. So I don't use it.
On my personal PC chrome remembers my passwords, or the camera just recognises me. On my phone the thumb pad recognises me. On my tablet I have to remember the passwords.
How can a password manager log me into my phone, my tablet, my SO's laptop, my kids kindles, my bosses PC, a random tablet at school, etc etc
If you move between devices and live in gmail, google classrooms, facebook, messenger, school intranets, SIMs.NET etc etc etc
I concur, that password managers are not that convenient when switching between random computers. In those cases, I use my phone as the manager and set easy to type diceword passwords for accounts which require mobility. Not as easy as a native chrome plug in, but (for me at least) I only use a few accounts when using random computers.
A truly withering indictment on these students. When even the simplest, most straightforward of tasks is "too hard" for students, the future is very bleak.
>So 99% of comp sci teachers are choosing sites with social logins.
An equally withering indictment of Computer Science teachers. I would certainly protest loudly if I was forced hand over my personal information to an intrusive, third-party corporation to participate in a class.
Stuff like logins are so inconsequential compared to the rest of the lesson.