You can set-up a password. Also you can login with a Telegram device nearby, e.g. a tablet or laptop. No phone required.
> Second, it collects and uploads all of your contacts to Durov's servers.
No, you can deny access or don't use the app from your phone. Contacts can be added by username, too.
> Third, all the messages are stored on the servers too so Durov can read them at his spare time.
No, the so-called secret chats are end-to-end encrypted and not stored on their servers.
This feels dishonest to me. Nobody ever uses the secret chats because Telegram devs have deliberately made them impossible to use.
I use it, so it isn't nobody.
> not implemented by apps
It's implemented by the Android and iOS apps, which are the most used ones.
> actively discouraged by UI
How is this actively discouraging? https://img.gadgethacks.com/img/original/18/79/6363832577010...
>Telegram is more secure than mass market messengers like WhatsApp and Line
Why are you defending these fraudsters?
>I use it, so it isn't nobody.
Don't play silly word games, you just said "I would guess that usage is definitely below 1%"
>It's implemented by the Android and iOS apps, which are the most used ones.
Ah, so it'll only fail to work 30% of the time? That's not terrible UX at all.
>How is this actively discouraging?
Why do you have to press a button to chat securely, when the "less secure" WhatsApp does not require that? Is it because of Durovs superior encryption technology?
You simply can't justify that button.
Them being fraudsters doesn't make all of your allegations true.
> Don't play silly word games, you just said "I would guess that usage is definitely below 1%"
So? 0.1% is below 1% and would still correspend to ~200000 users. That is NOT nobody.
> Ah, so it'll only fail to work 30% of the time? That's not terrible UX at all.
Source for the 30%?
> Why do you have to press a button to chat securely, when the "less secure" WhatsApp does not require that?
It's a trade-off. WhatsApp / Telegram's secure-chats are lacking other features Telegram's non-secure chats have.
And yeah, having to click "Start secret chat" is deliberately making things difficult. Signal or Whatsapp don't require that.
supported:
Telegram for Android
Telegram for iPhone and iPad
Telegram for WP
Telegram for macOS
Telegram for Windows/Mac/Linux
Telegram for Firefox OS
Telegram Web-version
Telegram Chrome app
To log in you have to either confirm your number (receive SMS or a call) or to give a code sent to your previously logged in device. There is no traditional login and password as far as I know.
Now that I think about it, administering a mail host is exactly like being a nurse, only people die slightly less often."