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Scribd is now the largest Rails site on the Internet (using Alexa rankings)

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Scribd is growing quickly and actively hiring all kinds of developers (ruby on rails, flash/actionscript, C++, etc) so please contact us, hackers@scribd.com, if you're interested. Check out our jobs page here: http://www.scribd.com/static/jobs

Here's a link to our traffic graph on alexa:

http://snipurl.com/24rqq

The first time I used Scribd's iPaper I thought, "This is magic." Its one of those products that, as a web developer, you'd have to be stupid not to use. Its simply that much better than its competitors. Congratulations, guys.

Can you explain the magic? I just don't get it. (Maybe I am stupid; I'll admit that much.)

From what I've seen, it looks like a Flash plugin to view PDFs. It breaks my scroll-wheel and keyboard shortcuts, uses funny-looking controls, and it takes as long to load the Flash plugin as it would have to just load the whole PDF. I always edit the URL so I can view the PDF normally. I don't know why I'd want to do this to my users.

doesn't in-browser pdf viewing suck apart from safari?

Probably -- I wouldn't know -- but I much prefer it even when Firefox opens a PDF in Preview or Evince than trying to use iPaper. The two most common things I do with a PDF, scrolling and searching, work exactly the same there as in the browser.

Breaking a man's keyboard shortcuts and scroll-wheel is the webpage equivalent of kicking him in the nuts. It just ain't right.

I don't understand scribd's popularity. What's wrong with pdfs?

i never liked acrobat reader on windows much. maybe that's it? or people just don't know where to host their pdfs. or don't know how to make pdfs.

So maybe the popularity comes out of ignorance?

yes. but that's not necessarily a bad thing to say about scribd. if scribd makes it easier for people to not know anything about how to use computers, then that's valuable to lots of people.

Scribd should win some award for being the most counterintuitive successful startup. It's hard to imagine that computer science majors came up with this idea!

youtube doesn't do much besides make a few things easy: make a file web accessible and convert to another format and provide comments and some text people can paste to embed it, and i guess favorites and a bit more -- all the kinds of things scribd has i think. plus give away free storage space and bandwidth, which scribd does too.

Definitely... the .pdf readers in OSX and Linux work much better.

The .pdf reader in Windows that feels the most like a *nix .pdf reader is Foxit PDF. The Foxit PDF editor is also pretty nice, it lets you edit .pdfs at a relatively low level of markup and spacing.

Scribd largest corpus of user submitted documents:

http://www.scribd.com/groups/adult/7

;)

I'll be the first to admit my perspective is limited, but for me, the "magic" is the ability to seamlessly and easily embed documents in a web page. Before iPaper, getting casual users to view a PDF or doc was brutal because it added another layer of complexity.

The user had to be able to understand and navigate an outside application, and what's worse, had to have the desire and memory to return to your website afterwards. iPaper simplifies the whole process and is worlds better than Acrobat Reader in terms of speed and simplicity.

yeah, this is using alexa rankings, so it's far from perfect and misses a lot of other data, so take it for what it's worth.

Alexa did a major update to it's ranking algorithm and source data yesterday. It's supposedly a lot better.

yes ... though it depends who you ask. Many like hacker news rankings went down. Was 14K two days ago... now 77K, while looking down next to my alexa toolbar ranking of this site I have the compete toolbar that says hacker news is ranked 25K. Though compete only measures US traffic, best of my knowledge. Scribd was ranked 900 something now its 500 something. Congrat to Ed K and the Scribd team!

Wow, I didn't know that. This is a handy site.

Double Wow, I didn't know Sribd is bigger than Yellow Pages

That's great for Scribd, not so great for Rails. The largest (known) Rails site isn't even in the top 500!

I'm curious how this compares to other technologies. Someone should write a script that crawls the top sites attempting to detect the technologies they're built on.

I can think of a few heuristics, like URL patterns and file extensions (.php, etc) and cookies (PHPSESSID for PHP, _session_id for Rails, JSESSIONID for J2EE, etc)

What was previously?

twitter?

That doesn't count desktop twitter clients.

It also doesn't count Facebook apps.

What about yellowpages.com?

They're #2 according to the article.

Scribd looks great, but Basecamp is down at 70262, probably since it uses subdomains. Full aggregated traffic for Basecamp and other 37signals properties would probably put it higher up on the list.

Highly doubt it. They have a lot of signups, but I bet a lot fewer active users. Scribd claims over 17m uniques a month.

Though I bet 37 Signals financial statement looks a lot better.

The two largest Rails deployments on the internet are not on that list.

Could you please elaborate more on what those two deployments are?

It's a wiki, why not add them?

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