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Anti-H1B posters plastered in the heart of Silicon Valleys train network

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People often forget how the entire ecosystem is structured, when the Trump administration wanted to send back people who were on Green card wait, a statistic was published in the local newspapers here in India. Apparently there were a good 6+ lacs H1-Bs residing in US currently. Add L1 and F1 categories, to it, then add green card holders and you could be staring at 10+ lacs Indians/Indian orgin people in the US already.

This is already a lot of people. In some way there are already enough Indians working in the US.

This number already rivals the entire head count of several Indian IT firms added together.

These guys are behind it http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pdf_archive/261/2616346...

For a less opinion based article try the Mercury News article that this one is based on.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16613568

You are expensive. Tech jobs in America earn double what they do in other western countries.

I was born in California, and I love to write software. I have 10 years of experience and have been networking, hackathoning, and applying my butt off for 2 years now, and still no offers. Nothing! I've always stayed sharp, especially because for years I have seen more and more brilliant engineers train their H1B replacements and kicked out with no comparable or sustainable employment options. It is an absolute fact that these immigrant workers are displacing hard working Americans. Why do foreigners get the jobs and the health care while locals like me get the finger? Where do I need to move? A different country? Or maybe a different field altogether? Software has so many people coming in, why do we need even more from overseas? It's starting to look less like a good job and more like a salt mine, and that's probably by design. Profit++

Hiring should be on merit. Why does it matter where somebody was born?

Your parent created an account an hour back, very likely just to comment on this issue: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=anonybus

This is classic troll flag.

You can safely neglect what he/she has written.

Are you trying to silence me?

Here's a thought: do you think there could be another reason, beyond skills, why you're not being hired?

Do you think it could be because of personality traits? A person who jumps to ideas of bigotry immediately (like you just did) doesn't sound like someone I'd be excited to work with. Could that be it? Honest questions.

I take this is a "Have you stopped beating your wife" kind of a question.

You don't need to be so thorough, you could have just said "yes".

Shouldn't a country look to benefit and protect its own citizens?

Absolutely, and as a US citizen and resident, your country does a huge amount to benefit and protect you.

That's quite different from saying that the whole country should participate in parochial isolationism because some individuals cannot do what they want.

There's little evidence that, in the medium to long term, that approach does benefit and protect its citizens. History has tended to show the opposite.

Well, yes. But here's another question:

Shouldn't a company try to hire the best workers, regardless of where they are from?

While you're clearly trolling, this is indeed a valid question.

The answer: Capitalism cares about no national boundaries.

Whether that's good or bad is for us to figure out. Do your boundaries lie around a state? a country? a species?

Definitely not "trolling".

That's maybe a bit too theoretical of a question, but let's say a person's bounds are his body. In order to protect bodies, we have constructed this idea of "countries" and "borders".

If a foreign body crosses a border and takes from another country and harms its locals, whether with a gun or with a piece of paper, isn't that bad?

Not sure what countries have to do with it. If someone takes something, that is rightfully yours, by force or other means then that's morally (and probably legally) wrong. It doesn't matter if they crossed borders or not.

But it's not clear that that's happening. In your OP, no-one has taken anything from you. They just haven't given you something that you feel you deserved but they, presumably, didn't.

You seem to be making the assertion that you've been unfairly treated, and that may be the case, I have no idea. But if you think that it's primarily down to foreign labour then the evidence is against you. There are a lot of US citizens employed in software development in the US. Much more than there are foreign nationals.

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