I don’t think either go to where I would like to spend time. If you want to go into the country, you need a car. A bus could get you to a place, but everything would be so spread out you’d have to hitchhike or use crazily expensive taxis—i’m talking 1$/minute here.

But, I see your point about going to other large public transit areas and I agree wholeheartedly. It’s already about twenty times cheaper to BART to SFO than to grab a lyft. Yet I grab the lyft anyway....