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I'm always afraid of the (incredibly little) chance of getting shot here in Germany, because I'm sure the doctors wouldn't have a lot of experience

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Hospitals which experience surges of unexpected trauma victims publish post-event write ups. I've read a couple on the web. They basically go to triage, training and practice.

Your german hospitals will all be thinking about this, all the time. Any construction site in a german city is only one mis-placed digger bucket away from an unexploded wartime 4000kg blockbuster bomb event.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass-casualty_incident

Just google "mass casualty incident" -They think about this. You will be looked after as best you can, because its planned for.

One doctor from the November Las Vegas shooting wrote a review of the incident for his ER that got attention on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15688900

That was one of the ones I read recently. I think another one was about dealing with the Bali bombing victims, hundreds of people with life-changing deep burns flooding into a system designed to handle 1-2 patients at a time

No matter where you live, it's always good to be versed in first aid, cpr, and some basic self-defense. Our civilized world can turn itself upside in a hurry, via natural disasters or man-made causes.

Genuinely curious, when was the last time that our civilized world turned itself upside down in a hurry?

Areas where natural disasters have hit have been very problematic, and the US has had large scale riots. Houston seems to be the exception. Local area reversions to anarchy can get you shot.

Paris train attacks, hurricanes in Florida, the machete attacks in London...

Pretty much any natural disaster.

The quakes in Mexico and the hurricanes that hit the gulf region islands and countries last year spring to mind.

As of right now, it might be upside down if you're stuck in Syria or Yemen?

In the US, you might recall the outcome of the Rodney King verdict as an example.

Happened in America recently, 2005 Hurricane Katrina:

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=506379...

Right now the best examples are Venezuela and Zimbabwe.

Haiti

Tornado's are frequently a thing. Emergency services become easily overloaded.

Puerto Rico?

The us govt actually sponsors some good (free) first aid training like https://www.dhs.gov/stopthebleed. That class is worth it, and i carry a basic 1st aid kit from Dark Angel medical in my backpack/car now.

I feel like I'm not very likely to need to perform CPR, but I've seen two people sustain major injuries doing yard work of all things. The 2nd time it took about 20 minutes for EMS to arrive. Had their cut been a bit deeper things could have easily ended up being much worst, and my crappy attempt at stopping their bleeding with a towel would have done nothing.

Stop the bleed is a 1 hour class, everyone should take it.

Yeah, since I took a wilderness first aid course I've been bitching about how crappy the first aid kit is at work. There's a machine shop and a lot of power equipment, and if someone manages to cut an artery they'll likely bleed out before EMS arrives.

All you need to do is stock some quick-clot gauze and a tourniquet or two. About $50.00 in materials could be the difference between an employee or coworker walking onto the ambulance versus that same person being carried out in a bag.

The kit can't treat anything more serious than a paper cut. It's seriously just a big box full of band-aids and ointment.

I carry the RATS tourniquet in my range bag, and with my bmx race gear (with other first aid craps). In the cars are trauma kits with celox. I should add celox to the range bag. I’ve taken a few first aid classes, the wife has training in how to handle medical emergencies from her time as a 911 dispatcher.

I keep trying to get a buddy’s former ranger nephew to give us some “classes” based on what he experienced in Afghanistan.

> Our civilized world can turn itself upside in a hurry, via natural disasters or man-made causes.

Is this true? It sounds more like doomsday prepper propaganda.

Katrina, Sandy, LA riots, what other situations am I missing?

First Aid and CPR training is usually part of a drivers license in Germany (though anecdotally, I had a laugh-cramp halfway through that course which I'm hoping will not repeat in a real emergency situation)

Yeah most germans know basic first aid and CPR

Also, was it when you had to give the puppet mouth-to-mouth? Because I was slightly stoned when I had to do that and I almost died laughing

Yeah that was the exact moment when I lost it, though I was sober.

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