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Before Bamford, there was little in public about the NSA. ECHELON was total conspiracy theory.

So is the Israeli attack on USS Liberty during the Six-Day War still a conspiracy theory? I guess not, because there's a Wikipedia page. But it was denied for many years.

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Even worse, Israeli false flag bombings in Egypt. They attempted to frame the Muslim Brotherhood. This was just a couple years after Israel got statehood. They denied it until 2000. "Lavon Affair" if you want to look it up.

USS Liberty, Israel continues to deny they did it intentionally and that there was any pressure to cover up.

I used USS Liberty because it's arguably no longer conspiracy theory, but still more controversial than NSA snooping.

But alleged activities of Israelis during the early years? That remains highly controversial. I do see a Wikipedia article about Irgun (Zionists) bombing the King David Hotel, however.

This is why I dislike the phrase conspiracy theory at times. Having a theory about a conspiracy due to some sort of evidence, is of course perfectly valid.

The real "conspiracy theories" tend not only to be against evidence, but also aren't things real human organizations are capible of pulling off. I can tell you that if a UFO really landed at a US military base, it would be on 20 different Facebook pages within an hour, secrecy be damned. Let alone keeping the thing secret for decades.

People believe conspiracies because they have forecasting power. Example, next time something bad happens listen carefully to see if there was a drill happening at the same time and the same place of the same thing occurring.

The conspiracy crowd is migrating to BitChute en masse, so this will add more fuel to the fire.

Looks interesting. But anything on clearnet remains vulnerable.

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