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Then they threaten to resurrect you 1000x and torture each of your resurrected selves for 1000 years unless you tell them the private key.

Roko's basilisk meets bitcoin.

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Meets Altered Carbon. But if you wake up in virtual reality, when you enter your key, how can you keep them from taking it from you? You'll never know if you are being man-in-the-middled.

We constructed a whole reality to steal your keys - the world's most advanced phishing attack.

This is basically the thesis of evangelical Christianity.

That's what "Roko's basilisk" mentioned upthread is. An AI cyberpunk version of evangelical Christianity.

In the world of altered carbon, it's pretty trivial to boot someone's mind up in a vr, even poor people at home can do it.

This is a bigger problem. But the smart contract should be verifiable if the blockchain still exists. If it doesn’t then your currency is probably worthless so resurrectors won’t bother.

Although I’m not sure how you would verify your messages with private key without revealing to whatever is managing your consciousness’ memory.

Well, you could deliberately enter false credentials to your old email addresses, checking if you were connected to the real world, mixed in with some correct creds. And see if it works as expected. But this is pretty hard to remember. Suppose you just wanted to do this with a variety of gmail addresses just using memory. Would they still be even working? I probably have about 10-15 passwords I use frequently enough that I could use them to verify if I was connected to the real thing. I could enter a few fakes. It's an interesting question, how can you tell if you are in a vr or not via credential checking with deliberate fakes.

Yeah but by the same logic as The Simulation Hypothesis if I am not being tortured now Rokos basilisk will never come to pass.

The simulation hypothesis just means you have a very low chance, not that it's zero.

That will likely be more expensive than just resurrecting you.

I’d structure with smart contracts with a certain price for digital. Another price for full physical. Keep other assets outside of consciousness in legal trusts.

There may be torturers, but likely non-torturers as well. Knowing this, tortured versions of me won’t crack as they don’t care.

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