TunnelBear Joins McAfee
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Yeah...
Looks like I’ll be forced into human to human interaction.
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Public scrutiny is precisely why the NRC is publishing immutable records of funding and grant allocations. The NRC claims to take their integrity in their work very seriously. Having been (co)founded by John Fields, they certainly have a reputation to maintain.
Sure, you might not like the ethics of their behaviour, but that has nothing to do with those grants.
"If our organization structure changes (i.e we undergo a restructuring or are acquired), we may need to migrate your Personal Information to a third party related to a business transaction, but, we will ensure that such a third party has entered into an agreement under which the use of your Personal Information is only related to purposes necessary for the transaction."
Further, they gave all of the personal information since it was all necessary for the transaction.
Unsustainable VPN companies that operate at low margins to sell to the highest bidder like this are the exact opposite of privacy conscious. :(
If you don't want to be poisoned you should read every food label of every food item you ever consume. Why make laws preventing manufacturers from poisoning some food when consumers can just read the label to find out which ones are poisoned!
We should have sensible defaults. Not this nonsense where it is seen as acceptable to screw over consumers with carefully worded legalese.
Wow, that is the opposite of reassuring. The "purposes" could easily be "better profiling you to price insurance policies."
Most T&Cs aren't worth reading. They can be summed up as "by having seen this document, you have agreed to let us do whatever we want forever," and what really matters is whether such contracts are legally enforceable where you live.
They mostly don't. They sold 51% of it to another firm, but still own 49%.
Stop using commercial VPN providers.
Honestly, at least now they have the McAfee security team working for them. There are better teams, but anything is better than getting a single point-in-time audit and slapped "independently audited" on your front page.
We at Private Internet Access have walked away from countless buyout offers over the past years for hundreds of millions. Every time it happens, we turn around and donate to another non profit org we appreciate.
I think it’s better advice to say that your threat model should take many things into consideration. Some people are better with a commercial VPN. Some are not. To each person in their own individual circumstance there are different needs. Your blanket advice is dangerous. It is important for everyone to do due diligence, remain skeptical, and do what is right for your threat model.
We are honest and go to work everyday with the challenge of your privacy and the increasing national surveillance state in mind. We could log, but we don't. We are against the concept and our actions have shown we do everything we can to fight the system that would try to have us log, too.
In an open world where software is open source and all users and skeptics can check the source code, you can't say that the McAfee security team is a better team than the entire open source community.
Currently, commercial VPN providers do require trust; and we recognize that. That is why PIA is working to disintermediate that trust - this is our end goal and we are VERY close.
Stay tuned.
What would you recommend, BYO?
It's easy to set up on Azure and has Wireguard built-in.
At the very least, don't use the free ones.
Once this reaches Mcafee.com (as opposed to tunnelbear.com) I am entirely confident executives will inform me the product is an important part of our security strategy. At some future point, there will probably be a Gartner Quadrant rating them highly.
McAfee has a poor name on HN, but this isn't generally reflected in business. This should be self evident- they'd be broke if it was.
In both cases, I have no idea what they're actually doing with my info.
It's what I use, check it out!
[0] https://thatoneprivacysite.net/2017/10/03/mullvad-review/
Full disclosure: I work at Private Internet Access.
Best recommendation: Get a cheap server from LowEndBox and setup OpenVPN (or, hopefully in 2019, WireGuard) for your less tech-oriented friends.
They don't pretend a VPN is going to keep you anonymous (https://encrypt.me/what-is-vpn/) but rather pitch their platform as a way to stay protected while at coffeeshops and public networks.
I used them when I was freelancing and working on public wifi. Super easy to use and reliable.
I was with Private Internet Access before and will either switch back to them or possibly to TunnelBear in the near future I think. The last 6 months with NordVPN has been pretty terrible.
It's still possible to setup by copy pasting a config file and downloading openvpn- but not as convenient as the regular application.
customer information can be subject to US court orders.
That aside, there are exceptions and someone is getting fucked over.
Cancelling automatically downgrades, how unreasonable.
Edit: Also TunnelBear isn't joining McAfee, or I doubt that they are. McAfee BOUGHT them. Joining implies that you merged the two businesses with no money changing hands.
Not at all. Saying you "joined" a company is often used as a less transactional (that is, warm and fuzzy, not cold and financial) way of saying you were acquired.
Not in typical usage because that typically doesn't happen.
I dont see the logic behind this, any one could explain?
P.S Is anyone still using McAfee ? It seems Symantec has taken up most of the enterprise sales, while consumer are happy with Windows default protection.
Lots and lots of people still use McAfee. Symantec's management products are still light years behind McAfee. Symantec really wasted a big opportunity with what they did to Altiris.
In all seriousness, it probably contributes to power bills and global warming!
Given the choice, wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
Neither of them would protect you against governments that much, but they do protect your privacy.
Do you want another place where all your data has been logged? I bet McAfee will have a field day with all the data tunnelbear has accumulated over the years.
If you think about it all the goodwill Tunnelbear had was built on quirky/irreverent front end client.
"We’d like to thank you for being part of the journey so far, and we look forward to sharing more about our plans in the coming weeks."